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1/15/2006 3:30 AM	 

Re: In a borrowed body is not the fact:

Dear Steve:

You are right about Judge. There was a Nirmanakaya there. {see below) 

But the story shows how a human intelligence can be "transplanted" so to say
in special cases -- "Tulku" gives instances of such processes. 

Judge showed how such an extraordinary case could we usefully employed.

It is not normal reincarnation, but is the importing of a fully developed
Personality and Individuality (dual Manas) but no Physical Body into a
physical vehicle which is being abandoned (permanently or temporarily) by
its normal occupant. 

That's as I understand it.

Dallas

PS

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H. P. B. to Mr. Judge on NIRMANAKAYA RESIDING WITHIN HIM.

                  
Ostende, Oct. 3, 1886

"The trouble with you is that you do not know the great change that came to
pass in you a few years ago. Others have occasionally their astrals changed
and replaced by those of Adepts (as of Elementaries) and they influence the
outer, and the higher man. With you, it is the NIRMANAKAYA not the 'astral'
that is blended with your astral. Hence the dual nature and fighting."
-- HPB

WQJ BIOGRAPHY, Eek & DE ZIRCOV, p. 19;
B.C.W. Vol. VII, p. xxvii, 138;
THEOS. FORUM (Pt. Loma), Aug. 15, 1932, p. 253;

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"If W.Q.Judge, the man who has done most for Theosophy in America, who has
worked most unselfishly in your country, and has ever done the bidding of
Master, the best he knew how, is left alone...then I say--let them go !
They are no Theosophists: and if such a thing should happen, and Judge be
left to fight his battles alone, then I shall bid all of them an eternal
good-bye. I swear on MASTER'S holy name to shake off the dust of my feet
from every one of them ... I am unable to realize that at the hour of
trouble and supreme fight ... any true Theosophist should hesitate for one
moment to back W.Q.J. publicly and lodge in his or her protest. Let them
read Masters' letter in the preliminary ... All that I said about W.Q.J. was
from His words in His letter to me ... Do with this letter what you like.
Show it to anyone you please as my firm determination ..."
--HPB
LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME, (ULT) p. 277 [Theosophy Vol.
3, p. 417]

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Mr. Judge once wrote of H.P.B.'s having shown him "where the designs for the
work had been hidden," and again of her having laid down "the lines of force
all over the land." It is clear that the methods adopted by H.P.B. were not
empiric but conformed to a plan clearly visualized by the Masters.	T M
25-182


The implementation of the plan depended primarily upon the work of H.P.B.,
but depended and still depends secondarily upon the efforts of those with
sufficient intuition to glimpse something of its outline.  

Of those in the public eye, perhaps only two, W. Q. Judge and Damodar K.
Mavalankar, did so immediately, while the remainder were attracted by one or
more of the Three Objects without at first grasping much of their deeper
import.   

As early as April 1880, in "The Theosophist," it was stated in the revised
Rules and By-Laws that the Society consisted of three Sections:  

The first was "exclusively of proficients or initiates in Esoteric Science
or Philosophy," who took a deep interest in the Society;  

the second was of Theosophists who had "proved their fidelity, zeal and
courage and their devotion to the Society," that they had become able to
regard all men as equally their brothers, and who were "ready to defend the
life and honor of a brother Theosophist" at whatever risk to themselves;  

the third was of Probationers, who remained such until their purpose to
remain in the Society had become fixed, their usefulness had been shown and
their ability to conquer evil habits and unwarrantable prejudices had been
demonstrated."	T M, v. 25, p. 182

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[ April 3rd. 1888 ] 


"To: William Q. Judge,    
General Secretary of the American Section of the 
Theosophical Society.


MY DEAREST BROTHER AND 
CO-FOUNDER OF THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY:

In addressing to you this letter, which I request you to read to the
convention summoned for April 22nd, [1888] ... We were several, to call it
to life in 1875. Since then you have remained alone to preserve that life
through good and evil report.  

It is to you chiefly, if not entirely, that the Theosophical Society owes
its existence in 1888.

Let me then thank you for it, for the first and perhaps the last, time
publicly, and from the bottom of my heart, which beats only for the cause
you represent so well and serve so faithfully. I ask you to remember that,
on this occasion, my voice is but the feeble echo of other more sacred
voices, and the transmitter of the approval of Those whose presence is alive
in more than one true Theosophical heart, and lives, as I know,
pre-eminently in yours. ..."
-- HPB

H.P.B.'s 1st Message to the American Theosophists. April l888.
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CONVENTION,
LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME, p. 276-7, U. L .T, Los Angeles,
l946

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3.

KNOW DARE
SAT
WILL SILENCE

                   
ESOTERIC TS SECTION         
Dec 14 l888

"As head of the Esoteric Section of the Theosophical Society I hereby
declare that William Q. Judge, of New York, U.S., in virtue of his character
as a chela of thirteen years' standing, and of the trust and confidence
reposed in him, is my only representative for said Section in America, and
he is the sole channel through whom will be sent and received all
communications between the members of said Section and myself, and to him
full faith, confidence and credit in that regard are to be given. 

Done at London this fourteenth day in December, 1888, and in the fourteenth
year of the Theosophical Society."

[ SEAL ] H. P. BLAVATSKY &Dgr;
S A T
THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, Vol. I, p. 17;
WQJ BIOGRAPHY, Eek & de Zircov p. 16-17;
EST CIRCULAR, May 27, l891, (Pt. Loma)

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[ Oct. 23, 1889 ]


"He or she, who believes that under any circumstances whatever,
provocations, gossips, slander or anything devised by the enemy, H.P.B. will
ever dream even of going against W.Q.J.--does not know H.P.B.--even if he or
she does know H.P.Blavatsky, or thinks he knows her.

"The idea is absurd & preposterous.

"If W.Q.J. gets riled under any provocation--for more than five minutes by
the city clock, then he is a flap-doodle. H.P.B. would give 7 dozens of
Bridges, 77 dozens of Noyses, the whole esoteric brood in the U.S.A. for
one W.Q.J. who is part of herself for several eons. Those having ears will
hear, those who are deaf & blind, let them provide themselves with false
ears & glass eyes, or--vanish away.

"The Esoteric Section and its life in the U.S.A. depends on W.Q.J. remaining
its agent & what he is now. The day W.Q. J. resigns, H.P.B. will be
virtually dead for the Americans. W.Q.J. is the Antaskarana between the two
Manas (es), the American thought & the Indian--or rather the trans-Himalayan
Esoteric Knowledge. DIXI."
 
H.P.B. 

P.S. W.Q.J. had better show, & impress this on the minds of all those whom
it may concern."
(H.P.B.)

WQJ BIOGRAPHY, Eek & de Zircov, p. 20-21.
LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME, (ULT), p. 277-8  

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"Ingratitude is a crime in Occultism, and I shall illustrate the point by
citing the case of W.Q.Judge. He is one of the three founders of the
Theosophical Society, the only three who have remained as true as rock to
the cause. While others have all turned deserters or enemies, he has ever
remained faithful to his original pledge ... He is the Resuscitator of
Theosophy in the United States, and is working to the best of his means and
ability, and at a great sacrifice, for the spread of the movement... Brother
Judge refuses to defend himself (*)... But is that a reason why we should
let him go undefended ? It is our bounden duty to support him, in every
way... Let our protest be on merely defensive lines, and not of an
aggressive character. For, if the spirit of Theosophy does not permit
aggressiveness being used, yet it does demand in some cases active defense,
and it does impose on everyone the duty of taking an active interest in the
welfare of a brother, especially of a persecuted brother, as Mr. Judge is
now ... "

 
-- H. P. Blavatsky.

THEOS. MVT., Vol. 5, p. 65
WQJ BIOGRAPHY, Eek & de Zircov, p. 22
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FN, (*) Mr. Judge was being attacked by Dr. Coues.


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Ostende, July 1886

"Well, sir, and my only friend, the crisis is nearing. I am ending my Secret
Doctrine, and you are going to replace me, or take my place in America. I
know you will have success if you do not lose heart; but do, do remain true
to the Masters and Their Theosophy and the names ... May They help you and
allow us to send you our best blessings. "
-- HPB

[letter continued] I am offered any amount of money, an income, board,
lodging, all free to come to America and work without you, i.e., against...I
rather lose the whole American lot to the last man, X---- included, than
YOU. Perhaps soon now, they will know why...Now be so kind as to write to
me plainly (so that I can read) what you expect me to do and what I must not
do. And I give you my word that I shall follow your instructions. Let us
understand each other, mutually. But till now no one ever said to me a word
about you asking to do this or that. Write to me direct and I will do it.
Goodbye my Irish crocodile, and may Master protect you."
-- H. P. Blavatsky

"SHE BEING DEAD YET SPEAKETH"  
HPB ARTICLES, (ULT), Vol. I,
121.
LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME, p. 280.
COLLECTED. WORKS of H.P. BLAVATSKY, V. 7, p.
xxvii


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"If I thought for one moment that Lucifer will 'rub out' Path I would never
consent to be the editor. But listen, then, my good old friend. Once that
the Masters have proclaimed your Path the best, the most theosophical of all
theosophical publications, surely it is not to allow it to be rubbed out ...
One is the fighting combative Manas: the other (Path) is pure Buddhi ...
Lucifer will be Theosophy militant and Path the shining light, the Star of
Peace. If your intuition does not whisper to you 'IT IS SO,' then that
intuition must be wool-gathering. No, sir, the Path is too well, too
theosophically edited for me to interfere."
-- HPB
LETTERS, p. 281


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"I trust Judge more than anyone in the world ... He has numerous enemies who
work against him underhand and openly too, as --- does. Now I have to hold
in check and counterwork their machinations when they write or say to Olcott
that Judge is a liar, etc. Now this is a ____ lie ... I am thinking of
going to U.S. with Annie Besant when the spirit moveth me."
--HPB

LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME, (ULT), p. 281

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[ 1888 ]         

"Well, my only friend, you ought to know better. Look into my life and try
to realize it--in its outer course at least, as the rest is hidden. I am
under the curse of ever writing, as the wandering Jew was under that of
being ever on the move, never stopping one moment to rest. Three ordinary
healthy persons could hardly do what I have to do. I live an artificial
life; I am an automaton running full steam until the power of generating
steam stops, and then--good-bye ! ...  
     
Night before last I was shown a bird's eye-view of the Theosophical
Societies. I saw a few earnest reliable Theosophists in a death struggle
with the world in general, with other--nominal but ambitious--Theosophists.
The former are greater in number than you may think, and they prevailed,
as you in America will prevail, if you only remain staunch to the Master's
programme and true to yourselves. And last night I saw /\ and now I feel
strong--such as I am in my body--and ready to fight for Theosophy and the
few true ones to my last breath, The defending forces have to be
judiciously--so scanty they are--distributed over the globe, wherever
Theosophy is struggling against the powers of darkness."
--H. P. Blavatsky
[Letter continued]

"Is Judge ready to help me to carry on the sacrifice--that of accepting and
carrying on the burden of life, which is heavy? My choice is made and I
will not go back on it. I remain in England in the midst of the howling
wolves. Here I am needed and nearer to America; there in Adyar there are
dark plots going on against me and poor Olcott."
-- H. P. Blavatsky


LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME, p. 281-2,
LUCIFER VIII, p. 291,
"YOURS TILL DEATH AND AFTER."
WQJ ARTICLES (ULT), II, p.2

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"Take my place in America now and, after I am gone, at Adyar. If you have
no more personal ambition than I have-- and I know you have not, only
combativeness--then this will be no more sacrifice for you than it was for
me to have Olcott as my President. ... I am yours truly in the work forever.
Dispose of me. I will ... help you with all my powers ..."


"Well, I have raised a 'Frankenstein' [the TS.], and he seeks to devour me.
You alone can save the fiend and make of him a man. Breathe into him a soul
if not the spirit. Be his Savior in the U.S. and may the blessings of my
SUPERIORS and yours descend on you. Yours--the 'old woman,' but one ready
to offer you her inner life if you begin and proceed with the work ... But
as the ranks thin around us, and one by one our best intellectual forces
depart, to turn bitter enemies, I say--Blessed are the pure-hearted who have
only intuition, for intuition is better than intellect ..."
--HPB

LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME, (ULT), p. 281-2



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-----Original Message-----
From: theosophia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:theosophia@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Levey
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:25 AM
To: theosophia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [theosophia] Re: In a borrowed body is not the fact:

Although Mr.J udge's Story is called "In a Borrowed Body", can the 
term "Borrowed" be interpreted in a way as to mean Tulku, as you know 
its meaning? I ask this because, the writings of this man provoke the 
reader to think that there is a great being within one whom we know as 
William Quan Judge.

Steve
--- In theosophia@yahoogroups.com, "arhat_buddhism" 
<arhat_buddhism@y...> wrote:
>
> within an absorbed body is the fact. Tulku is a Buddhist nun or 
monk, 
> incarnating another - and higher - Buddhist monk.
>







 
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