Theos-Talk Archives (December 2005 Message tt00080)

12/12/2005 3:38 AM


Dear Richard Pouncy and friends:


re: SECRET DOCTRINE - teaches


As I see it, Mme. H. P. Blavatsky wrote:

"But it is perhaps desirable to state unequivocally that the teachings,
however fragmentary and incomplete, contained in these volumes. . . . "

But the student should also keep in mind the statements in the SD:

". . . the SECRET DOCTRINE is not a treatise, or a series of vague
theories, but contains all that can be given out to the world in this
century." The S D, Vol I, p. xxxviii 

If we accept this as reasonable, (she used: "this century") the statement
is true even if more were given out beginning as early as 1899.

On this page [The S D, Vol I, p. xxxviii ] Madame Blavatsky writes:


"But it will take centuries before much more is given from it [Secret
Archaic Doctrine]. . . . "

Study the correspondence with the Masters of Wisdom. Do they do not evoke
an echo from one's own innate center of wisdom? If so, then, does this not
add further testimony ?

If we accept what she writes as accurate, this indicates that some more may
be given in the intervening centuries before "much more" is given.

In August, 1888, Master K.H. wrote this to Colonel Olcott who was on board
the S. S. Shannon:

"[The Secret Doctrine is] . . . an epitome of occult truths that will make
it a source of information and instruction for the earnest student for long
years to come. . . ." 

He added:

"Be assured that [in The Secret Doctrine] what she [HPB] has not annotated
from scientific and other works, we have given or suggested to her. Every
mistake or erroneous notion, corrected and explained by her from the works
of other theosophists was corrected by me, or under my instruction."  

One could compare this statement with what Madame Blavatsky said in the SD.
She writes:

"Mistakes have now to be checked by the original teachings and corrected. .
. ."

"Among such . . . [was] the erroneous statement that two of the superior
Globes of the terrestrial chain were two of our well-known planets: 

".besides the Earth . . . there are only two other worlds of our chain which
are visible. . . . Mars and Mercury. . . .' (Esoteric Buddhism; p. 136.) 

"This was a great mistake. . . ." 

". . . neither Mars nor Mercury belong to our chain. They are, along with
the other planets, septenary Units in the great host of "chains" of our
system, and all are as visible as their upper globes are invisible. . . ." 

"When the present work was commenced, the writer [H.P. Blavatsky herself] ,
feeling sure that the speculation about Mars and Mercury was a mistake,
applied to the Teachers [the Mahatmas] by letter for explanation and an
authoritative version. Both came in due time, and verbatim extracts from
these are now given.

'. . . . both (Mars and Mercury) are septenary chains, as independent of the
Earth's sidereal lords and superiors as you are independent of the
'principles' of Daumling (Tom Thumb) -- which were perhaps his six brothers,
with or without night-caps. . . . '. . . 

'. . . Our Globe, as taught from the first, is at the bottom of the arc of
descent, where the matter of our perceptions exhibits itself in its grossest
form. . . . 

Hence it only stands to reason that the globes which overshadow our Earth
must be on different and superior planes. In short, as Globes, they are in
COADUNITION but not IN CONSUBSTANTIALITY WITH OUR EARTH and thus pertain to
quite another state of consciousness. . . 

What I wrote [the Mahatma K.H., referring to his letters to Mrs. Sinnett and
Hume] was:


'The minor Pralaya concerns only our little STRINGS OF GLOBES.' (We called
chains 'Strings' in those days of lip-confusion.) . . . 'To such a string
our Earth belongs.' This ought to have shown plainly that the other planets
were also 'strings' or CHAINS. . .'

"It becomes patent why we could not perceive, even with the help of the best
earthly telescopes, that which is outside our world of matter. Those alone,
whom we call adepts, who know how to direct 
their mental vision and to transfer their consciousness -- physical and
psychic both -- to other planes of being, are able to speak with authority
on such subjects. And they tell us plainly: -- . . . 

'. . . Be prudent, we say, prudent and wise, and above all take care what
those who learn from you believe in; lest by deceiving themselves they
deceive others . . . . .' " 

I hope this helps,

Dallas


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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pouncy
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:44 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Blavatsky's writing was cause of every split in the
THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY


Dear Dallas;


May I ask you to explain what HPB meant in her writings from the SD VOL 
2 page 797

Thus far have proceeded the rough outlines of the beliefs and tenets of 
the archaic, earliest Races contained in their hitherto secret 
Scriptural records. But our explanations are by no means complete, nor 
do they pretend to give out the full text, or to have been read by the 
help of more than three or four keys out of the sevenfold bunch of 
esoteric interpretation, and even this has only been partially 
accomplished. The work is too gigantic for any one person to undertake, 
far more to accomplish. Our main concern was simply to prepare the 
soil. This, we trust we have done. These two volumes only constitute 
the work of a pioneer who has forced his way into the well-nigh 
impenetrable jungle of the virgin forests of the Land of the Occult. A 
commencement has been made to fell and uproot the deadly upas trees of 
superstition, prejudice, and conceited ignorance, so that these two 
volumes should form for the student a fitting prelude for Volumes III. 
and IV. Until the rubbish of the ages is cleared away from the minds of 
the Theosophists to whom these volumes are dedicated, it is impossible 
that the more practical teaching contained in the Third Volume should be 
understood. Consequently, it entirely depends upon the reception with 
which Volumes I. and II. will meet at the hands of Theosophists and 
Mystics, whether these last two volumes will ever be published, though 
they are almost completed. 


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W.Dallas TenBroeck wrote:

> 12/11/2005 4:21 AM
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> Friends:
>
> The posting quoted below is a perfect example of
>
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> "THROWING MUD IN THE FACE OF THE TEACHER."
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> Why did the Mahatmas choose HPB as their Messenger ?
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> Without her life and efforts there would be no THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY .
> We are all in her debt.
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> Dallas TenBroeck
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