Theos-Talk Archives (September 2005 Message tt00183)

9/11/2005 3:30 PM





Dear Etzion:



This is an awkward word: Let me quote you:

"viz., matter will become centrifugal and spirit centripetal -- that all
such transformations are next in store for the anthropoid ape also, all
those, at any rate, who have reached the remove next to man in this Round --
and these will all be men in the Fifth Round, as present men inhabited
ape-like forms in the Third, the preceding Round. 

This question is most likely is English: I am not sure how to translate the
word in red - remove - a stage of shifting?

I'll appreciate your responses. Etzion "

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DTB

The word "remove" according to my understanding would be the equivalent of
the word "stage" or "condition."

It indicates a level of the growth of intelligence, from INSTINCT, to MIND
FREEDOM and INDEPENDENCE.

If I might interpret the statement I would say to myself : The anthropoid
ape is one stage removed from the man stage in its capacity of intelligence.
It is still more of an animal than a true, independent, thinking man" 



1

[For example, this could be illustrated in the difference in the capacity of
intelligence between a human child of 3 or 4, and the same child about 7
years later: between 10 and 13. 

The moral factor, the sense of responsibility and discipline have become
active in the older body, due partly to teaching and experience, and partly
because of the gradual individualization of the mind/soul, that is now able
to say that it understands the results and effects of its individual choices
and consequences, also it has become aware of its "entity existence," and
can say with greater assurance: "I" or "ME." ]



2

Example: Imagine that we have a building of several floors. Each "floor"
is devoted to a range of experience that improves the ability of
intelligence in the forms.

1 on the top floor is MANKIND (as a mass, or group, or stage of
ability)



2 On the floor immediately below (one floor removed from the top)
are the 

APE, ANTHROPOID, SEMI-MAN -- SEMI-ANIMAL group of beings.
[gorilla, chimpanzee, orang-utang, baboon, etc.]



3 below that, floor by floor are other species, in the animal
kingdom, and then below that 



4 the vegetable kingdom, 



5 and then, the mineral kingdom, etc..



I hope this makes it clear.







[Keep in mind what is taught in S D I 181 -- 





There are three intertwined lines of evolution in Man



1 Spiritual (MIND or Soul), WISDOM, DISCRIMINATION, IMMORTALITY,
RESPONSIBILITY.

Quality: TO BE, I AM. 



2 Psychic EMOTION, DESIRE, PASSION, 

Quality : I WANT TO HAVE, TO OWN.



3 Physical MATERIAL FORM the supporter of Mind/Moral Soul, and
Desire/Selfish Soul.

It has its own separate intelligence, grows, heals
and takes care of itself.





The DIVINE MAN (The Prophet, the Sage, the Wise, the Magi) has all three
lines in a self-controlled harmony. 



He is wise, disciplined, and lives to benefit mankind. 



This is the universal teaching of the WISE. It will be found expressed,
perhaps in different words, in all religions. 





Best wishes, 





Dallas



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-----Original Message-----
From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@bezeqint.net] 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:54 PM
To: study@blavatsky.net
Subject: [bn-study] Help - SD vol 2, stanza 10, Archaic Teachings in the
Puranas and Genesis



http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-14.htm

Furthermore, we are taught that the transformations through which man
passed on the descending arc -- which is centrifugal for spirit and
centripetal for matter -- and those he prepares to go through, henceforward,
on his ascending path, which will reverse the direction of the two forces --
viz., matter will become centrifugal and spirit centripetal -- that all such
transformations are next in store for the anthropoid ape also, all those, at
any rate, who have reached the remove next to man in this Round -- and these
will all be men in the Fifth Round, as present men inhabited ape-like forms
in the Third, the preceding Round. 





This question is most likely is English: I am not sure how to translate the
word in red - remove - a stage of shifting?

I'll appreciate your responses. Etzion

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