Re: Theos-World : To Jerry HE: Does GdP actually teach this view given by Frank?
Aug 23, 2005 12:56 PM
by Jerry Hejka-Ekins
Dear Dallas,
I appreciate your exposition of Theosophical teachings from what you
consider to be source writings. However, different Theosophical
traditions have different notions about which writers are authoritative,
which writers are less so, and how to interpret these writings. What I
am suggesting is that what is taught in the ULT tradition about the
seven principles is not necessarily helpful in understanding what the
Point Loma Tradition taught about the seven principles. No judgment
about either system is implied here. Just that we can't learn much
about ducks by studying rabbits.
Best wishes,
Jerry
W.Dallas TenBroeck wrote:
8/23/2005 1:29 AM
Dear Friends:
Re: 7 Principles and Mr. Subba Row
Dear Friends:
The "Spiritual Soul" is generally called BUDDHI-MANAS or the Higher Manas.
Buddhi is the wisdom of acquired experience. It surrounds and protects the
ATMA -- like the "vase" in the Gayatri verse.
Most students of THEOSOPHY have read through the SECRET DOCTRINE several
time, also the MAHATMA LETTERS and ISIS UNVEILED ? Then, there are the many
articles published by HPB in THEOSOPHIST and LUCIFER.
This is mentioned because Mr. S. Row originally propounded in THEOSOPHIST
[Vol. 5, 225] the teaching of the 7 principles in the universe [S D Vol. I
157, 292-3, II 596] and in man.
One of his articles is quoted in the 1st Vol. of the SECRET DOCTRINE
beginning p. 157. [Reprinted in FIVE YEARS OF THEOSOPHY, pp. 92-123, 118-9
] (see also S D II 126, 595-6, 636, 640-1; LUCIFER Vol. XI, p. 24;
THEOSOPHIST: Vol. IX, p. 417; Vol. 5, p. 225 )
The 7 Principles are also found to be referenced in other ancient systems:
Gnostic S D II 604-5,
Kabalistic S D II 633
Egyptian S D II 632-3, 640-1,
Cosmic S D II 596
We have heard and read criticism of the seven fold division too often to let
it lie
unchallenged.
We are told that both HPB and S. Row were disciples of Mahatma M.
Later, herein, you will see that Mahatma M has vouched for the
contents of the SECRET DOCTRINE as partly written by Him, or under His
supervision. One could conclude this settles the matter of whose
"authority" stands highest. Is anyone of us so well equipped as to question
HPB and her work? Does anyone of us know THEOSOPHY well enough?
I do object to the way in which some appeared to criticize and qualify
both HPB and her Teachers as being faulty. I do not think
anyone of us is qualified (including myself) to make such a statement
without adequate proof and demonstration. Have you done that ?
done this.
The scope of the original Theosophical literature HPB produced and to which
the Masters certified (PATH, Vol. 8, p. 1 - 3) is (to me) adequate proof of
this fact.
In addition, the MAHATMA LETTERS provide us with further
demonstrations of the ubiquity, the power of perception, and the wisdom that
a real knowledge of the Sanatana Dharma, THEOSOPHY and of its
underlying immemorial OCCULTISM provides.
Both HPB and the Masters have said that nothing ought to be taken on
"faith," or blindly! [ Does this not mean we ought to ask very humble
questions, and avoid making declarations we will find it difficult to
substantiate? ] Let us so regulate ourselves that we offer readers a level
field. Let us provide all the evidence. And if we are unsure, let us all
ask for such facts as may provide such a situation for mutual benefit and
consideration.
But that does not imply They erred.
I have found no serious refutation of the philosophy or the facts of history
adduced in the "original literature" that alerts us to any real need for
describing THEOSOPHY as faulty. If there are any of the general principles
that are found to be flawed, I would very much like to have those exposed.
With profound personal respect for HPB her sacrificial work, old, feeble and
infirm, and for the Masters of Wisdom who inspired this magnificent effort
-- who are we to carp? and complain? Or seek to demean that work with our
partial knowledge?
In my opinion we know so little ourselves, all of us, that it is
inappropriate to criticize. But we are not prohibited from asking
questions.
Let me add
Theosophy will only be understood but by those who study and seek to
understand it. To rely on unsupported opinions (specially mine, or yours,
or anybody's) is unfair to Theosophy because none of us can do it justice.
At best we can only tell others of what we have learned (or not learned)
from it. Yet, we can always seek to learn more.
The basis for the THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY is: (I quote from the "Key"):
"What are the objects of the "Theosophical Society"?
THEOSOPHIST. They are three, and have been so from the beginning.
(1.) To form the nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity without
distinction of race, colour, or creed.
(2.) To promote the study of Aryan and other Scriptures, of the World's
religion and sciences, and to vindicate the importance of old Asiatic
literature, namely, of the Brahmanical, Buddhist, and Zoroastrian
philosophies.
(3.) To investigate the hidden mysteries of Nature under every aspect
possible, and the psychic and spiritual powers latent in man especially.
These are, broadly stated, the three chief objects of the Theosophical
Society." Key. p. 39
For instance: The potter who made the cup and saucer found among tangled
roots of plants in Simla (India, the Himalayan town north of New Delhi) in
1880 by Mr. Sinnett, and his party was not questioned. The extra cup so
found was used to provide tea, and create a situation that demonstrated
beyond refutation, that occult "phenomena" were possible, and could be done
by HPB at her will. She proved herself an Adept in doing this, and other
things which are on record. These can be easily advanced as "proof."
The SECRET DOCTRINE can sit on anyone's shelf indefinitely, but,
until one reads it one has no concept of its contents. No amount of
opinions portray the contents of the book nor can they predict a
reader's reaction to studying it.
I would humbly, therefore, always encourage direct contact, because any
other writing about Theosophy is inevitably opinionated -- it is second-hand
Theosophy at best.
But the respect we show for its [THEOSOPHY] teachers and messengers
is due to the work They did and continue to do. They labor to make
humanity free of prejudice, carelessness, laziness and alter each one into a
dynamic searcher for TRUTH. When we become able to write a SECRET
DOCTRINE ourselves, then only may we "criticize" it, or call it to task.
You, or anyone, may provide their opinion -- to which you / they are
entitled.
The proof of the value of THEOSOPHY lies in the independent reader's
comprehension of what is offered there.
To offer an opinion that may dissuade a potential theosophist from making
direct contact and framing therefrom his own opinions, is dangerous in my
esteem. It is unfair to the authors, and to the interested reader. It
amounts
to deliberate prejudice.
I would then say: Theosophy is not proved or demonstrated by the discovery
of spare tea cups and saucers to match.
Theosophy is offered as a practical way of living, based on actual universal
Laws of all life, and the history of universal and Earthly evolution,
recorded by the Sages. The phenomena merely prove that the esoteric sciences
are very potent and quite real, but are only available to those who will
use them harmlessly, and for good alone.
Let me show, from documents of the early days, what is said by Master K H
in a letter to Col. Olcott, delivered occultly direct to him, at sea, on
board
the S. S. Shannon as he was sailing to Europe in 1888 : --
"Try to remove such misconceptions as you will find, by kind persuasion and
an appeal to the feelings of loyalty to the Cause of Truth if not to us.
Make all these men feel that we have no favourites, nor affections for
persons, but only for their good acts and humanity as a whole.
But we employ agents -- the best available. Of these for the past thirty
years the chief has been the personality known as H. P. B. to the world (but
otherwise to us). Imperfect and very troublesome, no doubt, she proves to
some, nevertheless, there is no likelihood of our finding a better one for
years to come -- and your theosophists should be made to understand it.
Since 1885 I have not written, nor caused to be written save thro' her
agency, direct or remote, a letter or line to anybody in Europe or America,
nor communicated orally with, or thro' any third party. Theosophists should
learn it. You will understand later the significance of this declaration so
keep it in mind. Her fidelity to our work being constant, and her sufferings
having come upon her thro' it, neither I nor either of my Brother associates
will desert or supplant her. As I once before remarked, ingratitude is not
among our vices.
With yourself our relations are direct, and have been with the rare
exceptions you know of, like the present, on the psychical plane, and so
will continue thro' force of circumstances. That they are so rare -- is your
own fault as I told you in my last.
To help you in your present perplexity:
H. P. B. has next to no concern with administrative details, and should be
kept clear of them, so far as her strong nature can be controlled.
But this you must tell to all: -- With occult matters she has everything to
do. We have not abandoned her; she is not "given over to chelas."
She is our direct agent. I warn you against permitting your suspicions and
resentment against "her many follies" to bias your intuitive loyalty to her.
In the adjustment of this European business, you will have two things to
consider -- the external and administrative, and the internal and psychical.
Keep the former under your control and that of your most prudent associates,
jointly; leave the latter to her.
You are left to devise the practical details with your usual ingenuity. Only
be careful, I say, to discriminate when some emergent interference of hers
in practical affairs is referred to you on appeal, between that which is
merely exoteric in origin and effects, and that which beginning on the
practical tends to beget consequences on the spiritual plane. As to the
former you are the best judge, as to the latter, she.
I have also noted, your thoughts about the "SECRET DOCTRINE."
Be assured that what she has not annotated from scientific and other works,
we have given or suggested to her. Every mistake or erroneous notion,
corrected and explained by her from the works of other theosophists was
corrected by me, or under my instruction. It is a more valuable work than
its predecessor, an epitome of occult truths that will make it a source of
information and instruction for the earnest student for long years to come.
. . . "
Source: LETTERS FROM THE MASTERS OF WISDOM,
1st Series, p. 52-4, Vol. I, 1919.
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Besides this, there exists the certificates given by the Masters to Dr.
Hubbe-Schleiden -- reprinted in PATH, Vol. 8, p. 1-3. These read:
AUTHORSHIP OF SECRET DOCTRINE
A good deal has been said about the writing of ISIS UNVEILED, and later of
the SECRET DOCTRINE, both by H. P. Blavatsky.
A writer in the spiritualistic journals took great pains to show how many
books the first work seems to quote from, and the conclusion to be arrived
at after reading his diatribes is that H.P.B. had an enormous library at her
disposal, and of course in her house, for she never went out, or that she
had agents at great expense copying books, or, lastly, that by some process
or power not known to the world was able to read books at a distance, as,
for instance, in the Vatican at Rome and the British Museum.
The last is the fact. She lived in a small flat when writing the first book
and had very few works on hand, all she had being of the ordinary common
sort. She herself very often told how she gained her information as to
modern books. No secret was made of it, for those who were with her saw day
after day that she could gaze with ease into the astral light and glean
whatever she wanted.
But in the early days she did not say precisely to the public that she was
in fact helped in that work by the Masters, who gave from time to time
certain facts she could not get otherwise. The Secret Doctrine, however,
makes no disguise of the real help, and she asserts, as also many of us
believe, that the Masters had a hand in that great production.
The letters sent to Mr. Sinnett formed the ground for ESOTERIC
BUDDHISM, as was intended, but as time went on it was seen that some
more of the veil had to be lifted and certain misconceptions cleared up;
hence the SECRET DOCTRINE was written, and mostly by the Masters
themselves, except that she did the arranging of it.
For some time it was too much the custom of those who had received at the
hands of H.P.B. words and letters from her Masters to please themselves with
the imagination that she was no more in touch with the original fount, and
that, forsooth, these people could decide for themselves what was from her
brain and what from the Masters.
But it is now time to give out a certificate given when the Secret Doctrine
was being written, a certificate signed by the Masters who have given out
all that is new in our theosophical books. It was sent to one who had then a
few doubts, and at the same time copies were given from the same source to
others for use in the future, which is now.
The first certificate runs thus:
"I wonder if this note of mine is worthy of occupying a select spot
with the documents reproduced, and which of the peculiarities of the
"Blavatskian" style of writing it will be found to most resemble? The
present is simply to satisfy the Doctor that "the more proof given the less
believed." Let him take my advice and not make these two documents public.
It is for his own satisfaction the undersigned is happy to assure him that
the SECRET DOCTRINE, when ready, will be the triple production of
[here are the names of one of the Masters and of H.P.B.] and _______
most humble servant," [signed by the other.]
On the back of this was the following, signed by the Master who is
mentioned in the above:
"If this can be of any use or help to _____, though I doubt it, I,
the humble undersigned Faquir, certify that the Secret Doctrine is dictated
to
[name of H.P.B.], partly by myself and partly by my brother ______."
A year after this, certain doubts having arisen in the minds of individuals,
another letter from one of the signers of the foregoing was sent and reads
as follows.
"As the prophecy in it has come true, it is now the time to publish
it for the benefit of those who know something of how to take and understand
such letters. For the outside it will all be so much nonsense.
"The certificate given last year saying the SECRET DOCTRINE would be
when finished the triple production of [H.P.B.'s name], ________,
and myself was and is correct, although some have doubted not only the
facts given in it but also the authenticity of the message in which it was
contained. Copy this and also keep the copy of the aforesaid certificate.
You will find them both of use on the day when you shall, as will
happen without your asking, receive from the hands of the very person
to whom the certificate was given, the original for the purpose of
allowing you to copy it; and then you can verify the correctness
of this presently forwarded copy. And it may then be
well to indicate to those wishing to know what portions in the Secret
Doctrine have been copied by the pen of [H.P.B.'s name] into its pages,
though without quotation marks, from my own manuscript and perhaps from
______, though the last is more difficult from the rarity of his known
writing and greater ignorance of his style. All this and more will be found
necessary as time goes on, but for which you are well qualified to wait."
One Of The Staff , PATH, April, 1893
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Additionally --:
In The PATH for July 1895, Mr. Judge published an article:
"H.P.B. ON MESSAGES FROM MASTERS."
[Reprinted in WQJ Articles, Vol. I, p. 55]
It reads:
"Some years ago H.P.B. was charged [ by A.P.Sinnett ] with misuse of
Mahatmas' names and handwritings, with forgery of messages from the
Mahatmas, and with humbugging the public and the T.S. therewith.
Those charges had floated vaguely about for sometime...afterwards, writing
on the subject in "LODGES OF MAGIC" [ HPB Articles 1, p. 291 ] in
LUCIFER [Vol. 3, p. 92-3 ] the question of genuineness or the opposite of
such messages was dealt with, and what she wrote is here presented for
reconsideration.
It covers two matters.
First, it proves out of her own mouth what the PATH not long ago said that
"if one letter has to be doubted then all have" to be doubted.
Hence if the Letter to some Brahmins ["Prayag Letter" -- MAHATMA
LETTERS, p. 461-3 --written by HPB to Mr. Sinnett from Dehra Dun,
on Friday, November 4th 1881] is a fraud, as Col. Olcott and another say,
then all the rest are, also.
Second, it applies precisely to the present state of affairs in
respect to messages from Masters, just as if she had so long ago foreseen
the
present and left the article so that tyros in occultism, such as the present
agitators are, might have something to show them how to use their judgment.
The portion selected from her article reads:
"We have been asked by a correspondent why he should not "be free to
suspect some of the so-called 'precipitated' letters as being forgeries,"
giving as his reason for it that while some of them bear the stamp of (to
him) undeniable genuineness, others seem from their contents and style, to
be imitations.
This is equivalent of saying that he had such an unerring spiritual insight
as to be able to detect the false from the true, though he has never met a
Master, nor been given any key by which to test his alleged communications.
The inevitable consequence of applying his untrained judgment in such cases,
would be to make his as likely as not to declare false what was genuine and
genuine what was false. Thus what criterion has any one to decide between
one "precipitated" letter, or another such letter?
Who except their authors, or those whom they employ as their amanuenses
(the chelas and disciples) can tell? For it hardly one out of a hundred
"occult"
letters that is ever written in the hand of the Master, in whose name and on
whose behalf they are sent, as the Masters have neither need nor leisure to
write them; and when a Master says: "I wrote that letter" it means only
that
every word in it was dictated by him and impressed under his direct
supervision.
Generally they make their chela, whether near or far away, write (or
precipitate) them, by impressing upon his mind the ideas they wish
expressed, and if necessary aiding him in the picture printing process of
precipitation. It depends entirely upon the chela's state of development,
how accurately the ideas may be transmitted and the writing-model imitated.
Thus the non-adept recipient is left in the dilemma of uncertainty, whether
if one letter is false all may not be, for as far as intrinsic evidence
goes, all come from the same source, and all are brought by the same
mysterious means. But there is another and far worse condition implied.
All the so-called occult letters being supported by identical proofs, they
have all to stand or fall together.
If one is to be doubted, then all have, and the series of letters in the
OCCULT WORLD, ESOTERIC BUDDHISM, etc., etc., may be,
and there is no reason why they should not be in such a case ,-- frauds,
"clever impostures," and "forgeries" such as the ingenuous though
stupid agent of the "S.P.R." has made them out to be, in order to
raise in the public estimation the scientific acumen and standard of
his "Principals"... [H.P.B.]
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Dallas
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PS
HPB'S REFERENCES in the
SECRET DOCTRINE -- Dr. T Hyatt on a unique work
[DTB narrates:]
In October 1940, when I was living in Bombay, I met Dr. Thaddeus
P. Hyatt of Stamford, Connecticut. He was an old-time student of
Theosophy and a personal friend of both H P B and of Mr. Judge.
Together with his associate Dr. Franklin N. Davenport these two gentlemen
set themselves to trace and verify the many citations that HPB gives in the
2 volumes of THE SECRET DOCTRINE.
He had just published when he passed through Bombay, India, the first of a 2
volume set titled:
A CHECK LIST OF SOME OF THE BOOKS AND AUTHORS QUOTED
OR REFERRED TO IN THE TWO VOLUMES OF "The Secret Doctrine."
[I have a copy. ]
The 2nd volume was to complete this list and also include some of those
citations that related to the two volumes of ISIS UNVEILED, also by Mme.
Blavatsky. [ Never published. ]
Dr. Hyatt used 93 subject classifications; and a separate alphabetical
listing of authors and book titles made it easy to locate any reference.
The relevant pages(s) of the original 1888 edition of the SECRET
DOCTRINE were used there.
In his Introduction to the 1st volume, Dr. Hyatt wrote:
"It is difficult to appreciate the wealth of material quoted and the
diversity of subjects included, when they are scattered throughout the
thousands of pages in the two volumes. It is hoped that this check list
...will make manifest one of the most remarkable features of the "The Secret
Doctrine."
He adds:
"[so that]... many may gain a better understanding or the inclusiveness of
all the different aspects of each subject presented, and that the "Secret
Doctrine" is not the dogmatic presentation of any one religion or any one
philosophy, or of any one science.
It might be well to recall that which Mr. Judge, who was present and a
frequent visitor to HPB when ISIS UNVEILED was being written, wrote
in THE ESOTERIC SHE, New York SUN, Sept. 26th, 1892,
[ ULT Judge Articles, Vol. 2, p. 32...]
"I and many others can testify as eye-witnesses to the production of the
book, that the writer had no library in which to make researches and
possessed no notes of investigation or reading previously done. All was
written straight out of hand.
And yet it is full of references to books in the British Museum and other
great libraries, and every reference is correct.
Either then, we have, as to that book, a woman who was capable of storing in
her memory a mass of facts, dates, numbers, titles and subjects such as no
other human being every was capable of, or her claim to help from unseen
sources is just."
Writing to Mr. Sinnett from Wurzburg in 1886, HPB said:
"As for philosophy and doctrine invented the S.D. shall show. Now I am here
alone with the Countess [Wachtmeister] for witness. I have no books no one
to help me. And I tell you that the SECRET DOCTRINE will be 20 times as
learned, philosophical and better than ISIS."
Dr Hyatt's book is available at Theosophical and other large reference
libraries and will help to prove to the skeptical HPB's bona fides. His
book is a valuable service to the cause of Theosophy.
[ Extracted from an article in the monthly magazine THE
THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, Bombay for December 1940, p 23. ]
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QUESTION
The issue of how the Secret Doctrine was written has come up.
S--------- has put forward some comments that I think are quite wrong,
contrary to the facts, and misleading to newcomers. I don't feel like
repeating the slanders. His basis is the writings of William Coleman of the
last century. You should know that Coleman was a "leading spiritualist" of
that time. HPB did indeed rankle and offend not only the Church, the
established science, but also "leading spiritualists" of that time. They
were at times motivated to discredit her and in some cases their efforts
survive and are repeated today.
A succinct rebuttal of Coleman is contained in Sylvia Cranston's biography
of HPB on pages 379-384. On the BN site there is a click on the bottom of
the homepage for "refutation". I generally don't like to take the defensive
posture so by far most of the site is positive not defensive. Nevertheless,
a number of slurs by authors of newer books are dealt with. Though Coleman
has been now resurrected, and on this site, possibly I should place those
pages of Cranston on the site. I will have to address that question later
along with the copyright issues. Meanwhile I suggest anyone interested read
those pages in that book. It is the definitive biography of HPB with a heavy
emphasis on
documentation.
Of the material I have read on this subject I highly recommend
"How the Secret Doctrine was Written" by Boris De Zirkoff.
One of the things it points out is that HPB had about 30 books in her room
while writing the Secret Doctrine. She references or quotes from some 700
books in the SD. Phenomenal. How did she do it? Was it through the
normal academic means of producing a book? Also one might want to
consult a William Q. Judge article entitled: AUTHORSHIP OF SECRET
DOCTRINE
In part it references the Coleman issue:
"A good deal has been said about the writing of ISIS UNVEILED, and later
of the SECRET DOCTRINE, both by H. P. Blavatsky.
A writer in the spiritualistic journals took great pains to show how many
books the first work seems to quote from, and the conclusion to be arrived
at after reading his diatribes is that H.P.B. had an enormous library at her
disposal, and of course in her house, for she never went out, or that she
had agents at great expense copying books, or, lastly, that by some process
or
power not known to the world was able to read books at a distance, as, for
instance, in the Vatican at Rome and the British Museum.
The last is the fact.
She lived in a small flat when writing the first book and had very few works
on hand, all she had being of the ordinary common sort. She herself very
often told how she gained her information as to modern books. No secret was
made of it, for those who were with her saw day after day that she could
gaze with ease into the astral light and glean whatever she wanted.
But in the early days she did not say precisely to the public that she was
in fact helped in that work by the Masters, who gave from time to time
certain facts she could not get otherwise.
The Secret Doctrine, however, makes no disguise of the real help, and she
asserts, as also many of us believe, that the Masters had a hand in that
great production. The letters sent to Mr. Sinnett formed the ground for
Esoteric Buddhism, as was intended, but as time went on it was seen that
some more of the veil had to be lifted and certain misconceptions cleared
up; hence the Secret Doctrine was written, and mostly by the Masters
themselves, except that she did the arranging of it.
_________
You may also want to check another Judge article entitled:
A WORD ON THE SECRET DOCTRINE.
This is an article that shows the text of K H, one of the Masters
of HPB, and signed by him in the original. He explains that the Secret
Doctrine is the result of the combined work of HPB plus her two teachers.
(I think I am missing here one other letter from the masters saying
effectively the same.)
See also How "ISIS UNVEILED" WAS WRITTEN. By Alexander Wilder,
M.D. Wilder was an academic individual. He was asked by the publisher
of Isis Unveiled to edit it. He took his task in earnest. The article is
quite interesting and he says in part:
"I would hesitate, likewise, to be considered in any noteworthy sense as an
editor of the work. It is true that after Mr. Bouton had agreed to become
the publisher, I was asked to read the proof sheets and make sure that the
Hebrew words and terms belonging to other languages were correctly given by
the printer, but I added nothing, and do not remember that I ventured to
control anything that was contributed to the work. Without her knowledge
and approval, such action would have been reprehensible."
Also online is:
"THE WRITING OF THE SECRET DOCTRINE" by Kirby Van Mater.
Here is an interesting quote from it:
"Even on the open sea, she received "pages of manuscript referring to The
Secret Doctrine." (5) She stayed about three months in Italy, at Torre del
Greco and Rome, and later in Switzerland, finally settling at Wurzburg,
Germany in early August. On October 28, 1885, HPB wrote Olcott that
she had "not much time now . . . but shall in a month or two send you the
first six sections." (ODL, III: 3I7).
Also, here is an extract from a letter from one of the Masters [to Col.
Olcott]:
"But we employ agents - the best available. Of these, for the last thirty
years, the chief has been the personality known as H.P.B. to the world (but
otherwise to us). Imperfect and very "troublesome" no doubt she proves to
some; nevertheless there is no likelihood of our finding a better one for
years to come, and your Theosophists should be made to understand it."
Dallas
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-----Original Message-----
From: Anand
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:02 AM
To:
Subject: HPB admitted she misunderstood teaching given by the Masters
On 4 th January 1887 HPB wrote letter to Col. Olcott after Subba Raw
(S.R.) gave opinion about Proem of SD.
HPB writes
" ........Let S.R. [Subba Row] do what he likes. I give him carte
blanche. I trust in his wisdom far more than in mine, for I may have
misunderstood in many a point both Master and the Old G. (other
Adept). They give me facts only and rarely dictate in succession. I
am no maker of books you know it........"
It not only tells wisdom of S R but also tells that she did
misunderstand things which went into her writing.
Later when she sent draft of Secrete Doctrine to Subba Raw for
correcting mistakes. He went through it and told her that if he was
to correct it he would have to write whole book again.
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Please read a 2nd post entitled:
CLASSIFICATION OF PRINCIPLES by HPB
in which she compares that which Mr. Subba Row first endorsed, and that
which he later criticized. Apparently Mr. S R was the one who was
inconsistent.
Further references can be had by consulting The KEY TO THEOSOPHY
dtb
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Hejka-Ekins
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:28 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Does GdP actually teach this view given by Frank?
Dear Frank, Daniel, Pedro et al,
As for GdeP's teaching on the seven fold constitution, it does not
contradict HPB or the Mahatma letters in any way that I have detected.
Rather, I found it to integrate together what was written in these
sources into a rather clear explanation.
As for divine souls: GdeP of course recognized sexual differences in the
physical body and the linga sharira, but the higher principles do not
have sexual attributes and, they are part of all of our constitutions.
CUT
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