Theos-Talk Archives (August 2005 Message tt00186)

Frank, you write in part:

"Why are you not satisfied when I come to conclusions 
which may be different from your research? Hang him 
higher! Bomb them down!"

Similarly, I might ask you: why are you not satisfied
when Leadbeater comes to conclusions which may
be different from your own research? Apparently
you are not so "satisfied" either and are not shy
at pointing out Leadbeater's differences and even
calling him a "swindler"! :)

My comments were in response to what you had written
in the following posting:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/27948

In this posting you refer to the views of Thomas, the synod of Paris 
in 846 A.C, the synod of Coyaca in 1050, other synods, Clemens, John 
Chrysostomos, Pope Pius II, and Buddhist monks on the "lower" status 
of women and then seemingly conclude:

"I think that Theosophy teaches SIMILIAR in its HIGHER teachings, 
but POPULAR Theosophy looks as is men and women are equal.
GdeP elsewhere said (I am looking for the text I read some years 
before) - perhaps in one of his circulars - as warning for future 
theosophists that women may not get leaders in the TM for the next 
some hundreds of years because of their LACK OF THE DIVINE SOUL and 
their attraction to the lower astral world."
caps added

Frank, if you want to believe all of this that is up to you, but I 
simply wanted to point out to readers who may not know that much 
about Theosophy that there may be other views on the matter!  

Furthermore, it appears that you wanted to cite Purucker as 
a "knowledgeable" authority to support this view of yours. Well, in 
turn, I believe that Pedro quoted KH to support an opposite view on 
the matter.

If you want me to be brutally honest, I think such a view as the one 
you give ranks up there with some of the other claptrap put out by 
such "occultists" as Leadbeater, Bailey, Prophet, Ballard, etc. I 
hope GdP doesn't also believe this "claptrap." 

But of course that is only my view and others may differ. :)

I give again for other readers the words of Master KH:

". . . Woman must not be looked upon as only an appanage of man,
since she was not made for his mere benefit or pleasure any more than
he for hers; but the two must be realized as equal powers though
unlike individualities.

". . . Woman's mission is to become the mother of future
occultists—
of those who will be born without sin. On the elevation of woman the
world's redemption and salvation hinge. And not till woman bursts the
bonds of her sexual slavery, to which she has ever been subjected,
will the world obtain an inkling of what she really is and of her
proper place in the economy of nature . . .

". . . Then the world will have a race of Buddhas and Christs, for
the world will have discovered that individuals have it in their own
powers to procreate Buddha-like children or — demons. When that
knowledge comes, all dogmatic religions and with these the demons,
will die out."

To Jerry HE: if you are reading this, can you tell us from your 
study of GdP if he actually teaches this view as given by Frank?

Daniel
http://hpb.cc