Theos-Talk Archives (August 2005 Message tt00087)

8/12/2005 2:28 AM

Dear Steve:

To me meditation is a period of deep and concentrated thought on some of the
truths that THEOSOPHY offers us to study and enquire into.

No doubt: our whole life is called a "life-times mediation." I would add
that as age advances the focus may vary, but the exercise is always
controllable by the active determined mind and will. 

If you use the 7 principles then ATMA through Buddhi energises the HIGHER
MANAS or BUDDHI-MANAS using will.  

Our embodied mind or Kama-Manas, must have two aspects: one, the altruistic
and ideal; and the other, the reverse: selfish and sybaritic.  

Discrimination is a Buddhic faculty derived from a comprehension of the
universal impartiality of KARMA operating uniformly everywhere and
every-when. It perceives the value of continual selection and control of all
choices. The object being to elevate the embodied consciousness from
selfishness to the actual practice of benevolence through brotherhood in all
ways.

There is nothing wrong with KAMA so long as it abides within the boundaries
of cooperation and LAW (KARMA ).

But we have to realize that practice of this in a common daily way is only
the result of a continuous gentle pressure on the embodied self to
regularize its decisions and be practical and virtuous at the same time. 

Thus the Higher Mind serves the Lower Mind as guide and mentor. [S D II
167, TRANSACTIONS OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE, pp 64-67 -- describes this
continuous process -- as I see it ]

Best wishes,

Dallas
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: steven levey 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:10 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Introduction

Dal-


I agree with Cass in this:

"I know that the majority of the theosophists in this group meditate.

I do not. I have never been able to master it properly. I see meditation as
focusing on a particular subject until I have a workable knowledge (not an
expert knowledge) of it."

But I think that what is called "Meditation" is really the "focusing" she is
speaking of. I feel that what marks or defines whether or not one is
meditating, is results. To find "wisdom springing up spontaneously" has
always been my benchmark. And that happens far more often than we think. But
the precursor to this, I feel, will always be "focusing", for that allows
Manas to work as it excludes side issues and unifies with that which it
would know.

Steve

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "W.Dallas TenBroeck" <dalval14@earthlink.net>
To: "AAA-Dal" <dalval14@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: Introduction


Thursday, August 11, 2005


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Dear Kathy:

I too, have been over the years, examining without much method, the writings
of HPB and particularly the SECRET DOCTRINE. I have kept some notes, but
they are not systematized.

See what you think of this?

It might be a good idea to go carefully through them and tabulate (quote
what she actually says on various subjects.

Then one would get a grasp of what THEOSOPHY says and what is advanced as
evidence, and to that, as a base, we can add all that is significant in the
way of discovery since then.

In other words on a certain frame work, we can view any changes additions,
etc...