Theos-Talk Archives (July 2005 Message tt00046)

Cass,
In my understanding, there are many occult schools and they differ 
considerably. They advise different physical and energetic conditions to 
advance the kind of work they do, and we can learn from their commonalities 
and their differences. Occult pupils and servers can and do do work in the 
world, in all its varied conditions, even to the most dense, dirty and 
dangerous. A refined and powerful soul can inhabit the roughest looking 
body, speak the rudest way, for the work that can be done in that body and 
those circumstances. For example, it often takes an ex drug addict to be 
able to convince kids at school that drugs are not the way to go; somebody 
is doing this service, and they had to be an addict to do it. I'm not 
talking specifically about HPB in saying this.

So, it's easy to judge, and I don't see much point in holding one 
description up against another.

There was a discussion on this list a while ago about why HPB would have 
taken drugs and smoked. I don't have a problem with that, as there is 
little point in comparing her case with what is advisable for most people. 
It is easy to get rigid and jingoistic about what constitutes the path of 
discipleship and what leads up to it. Nature is much broader than we know.

And how was that sentence about the evolutionary/scientific debate related 
to the rest of this? Another example of a debate getting dirty and useless?

Murray


At 23:58 5/07/2005, Cass Silva wrote:
> Hi Murray,
> Just thought I would post this, there is something rotten in the State of 
> Denmark, me thinks.
>
> The evolutionary/scientific debate has diminished into a one sided mud 
> slinging event with no scientific answers coming forward.
> Anand will be shrilling with joy over this.
>
> Cass
>
> "10- No animal food of whatever kind, nothing has life in it, should be
> taken by the disciple. No wine, no spirits or opium should be used; for
> these are like the Lhamaym (evil spirits), who fasten upon the unwary, they
> devour the understanding."
> - PRACTICAL OCCULTISM by H.P.BLAVATSKY [1]
>
> > My take on Copenhagen is that space is both
> > full and empty at the same time.
> > - Ed
>
> My take on the Copenhagen theory is that hypocrite Madame Blavatsky would
> skip that Nordic chew city to instead head for Amsterdam to do her spacey
> empty vision thing with a little legal hashish smoking mixed with opium
> (compare above and below). [1] [2]
>
> J.Scott
>
> "HPB was penniless but said that she had wrote home to her relatives for
> money and expected to receive it from the Russian Council at anytime. This
> is how she survived in the home. She managed to divide the home into two
> groups, those not liking her and those that did. She entertained the latter
> group with stories of her life and by holding seances on Sunday nights. This
> seemed to work until a newspaper took a dislike to her and accused her of
> using hashish and opium."
>
> [1] PRACTICAL OCCULTISM by H.P.BLAVATSKY
> http://www.anandgholap.net/Practical_Occultism-HPB.htm
>
> [2] Blavatsky, Helena Petrovna (1831-1891)
> http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/b/blavatsky_helena_petrovna.html