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Re: Theos-World Obi-Wan Kenobi on fundamentalism?

May 20, 2005 10:57 PM
by M. Sufilight


Hallo all,

A few quotes from the movies might help us a bit.

Yoda:
"Yes, - a Jedi's Strength FLOWS from the Force...But be aware of the Dark Side"
- - - - - - -
"If once you start down the dark Path for ever will it dominate your destiny - consume you it will - as it did
Obi Wan's apprentice."

- - - - - - -

Luke Skywalker:
"I don't believe it."

Yoda (lifting the spaceship):
"That - is why you fail..."


Less emails and more wisdom would perhaps make us all well.



from
M. Sufilight



----- Original Message ----- From: "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Obi-Wan Kenobi on fundamentalism?


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Meredith"
<meredith_bill@e...> wrote:


Haven't seen the movie yet, but I do recognize an absolute
statement when I
see one. Obi-Wan is making an absolute statement. And because his
statement is framed as an absolute (specifically by the word Only)
he in
effect negates the validity of the statement even as he says it.
Unless of
course Obi-Wan is a Sith. The Star Wars saga deals with
absolutes. It is a
modern version of good vs. the dark side and like all previous
versions
good will triumph over evil in the end. Is George Lucas a Sith?

Perhaps a Sith.com? (lol)

I take your point, though. Perhaps every central religious or
philosophical statement is wrapped, formally, in an absolute
discourse. A few occur to me here:


"The word that can be said is not the true word." (Lao Tzu)

"You never step into the same river twice." (Heraclitus)

"There is no independent source of evil in Nature." (KH)

"Only Brahman is real." (Upanishads)

"Truth is a pathless land." (Krishnamurti)

"Your are either with us or you are our enemy." (Anakin Skywalker
quoting George W. Bush)


What saves Obi-Wan from becoming a Sith spin-doctor, imo, is the
word "deal" in his statement. In other words, how does one relate to
life and existence around us? If one takes refuge, intellectually, in
an absolute point of view, there is simply no relationship at all,
for reality is eternal movement, change, growth.

Perhaps Obi-Wan is re-stating a Taoist view: if you understand what
the Force is you don't get stuck in a separate sense of self.

Anyway, enough of spoilers. Have a look a Senator Palpatine
discourse. He really makes Sith happens.


pedro









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