Theos-Talk Archives (May 2005 Message tt00542)

Bill:

Perhaps an absolute statement can only be made if it is not recursive. When
something is self-referent, it cannot be absolute, since it's relative to
something (to itself). 

An absolute statement is not negated when it is shown that the statement
itself is not subject to what it says. It could not be an absolute statement
and at the same time be subject to external conditions.

A relative statement, though, is negated when it is shown that the statement
itself in not subject to what it says. If it describes the relative
relationships between things, it must itself demonstrate the relationship
that it asserts. 

Now, we can attempt to understand this using one of the seven keys to
discussion found by different theos-talk gurus.

1. The only statement I like is an Absolut one, with an olive.
2. In page 21,318 of the HPB akashic records, statements are explained.
3. There's food for thought in what Jesuits say against theosophical logic.
4. In the zero-point spin state, 15th dimension, all absolutes are relative.
5. My Australian relatives are much better than your Dutch ones.
6. Leadbeater was the first to clairvoyantly investigate mental plane logic.
7. Who cares about logical statements when on a serene canoe ride.

Elsewhere on the Internet, we read:

1. In our latest chapter, we read the Lipika transcend absolutes.
2. Moderator! I want to write to the list. Stop deleting my messages!
3. Anyone under 30 cannot understand absolutes unless taught in college.
4. We invisible helpers floated into the wrong bedroom. An absolute mistake!
5. From the point of wine in the mouth of God, let wine pour forth into ...
6. You MUST believe we are not fundamentalists or we'll kick you out.
7. The satanic, nazi, anti-christian, heathen theosophists drink blood!

> From: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Bill Meredith
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Obi-Wan Kenobi on fundamentalism?
> 
> hello pedro,
> 
> Haven't seen the movie yet, but I do recognize an absolute statement when
> I
> see one. Obi-Wan is making an absolute statement. And because his
> statement is framed as an absolute (specifically by the word Only) he in
> effect negates the validity of the statement even as he says it. Unless
> of
> course Obi-Wan is a Sith. The Star Wars saga deals with absolutes. It is
> a
> modern version of good vs. the dark side and like all previous versions
> good will triumph over evil in the end. Is George Lucas a Sith?
> 
> bill