Theos-Talk Archives (May 2005 Message tt00526)

Hey Christina,

Ease up a little. I didnt make the claim that Australia was the best place on earth, I said we think our beer, wine and cheese is the best.
All those little toys that NASA and everyone else has won't help the world one iota in a real crisis, except perhaps to warn everyone to run. Although they do not even have a good record on that one.
There are only 20 million of us here in the whole country, so comparatively speaking, even though we enjoy our cars, our contribution to the ozone layer is far less than over-populated countries, but we are doing our best. We switched to unleaded petrol about 10 years ago, we have a replanting system, whereby every tree that is lopped down is replaced with a new tree. Our minerals are imported to Europe and the World to keep them warm in their beds. Our steel is used to manufacture those ginormous cruise vessels that sail around the meditteranean and our uranium is sent to european agents who resell it on to the middle east dictators. So yes we will share in that karma. We have the cleanest drinking water in the world, our farmers are starting to turn organic and at least we don't have the fall out on our soil, from chenoyble that Europe will be coping with for another 100 years. Our nuclear power stations are located away from the populace, in fact I am not even sure if we
have any.

Europe is an education for Aussies because our education system is built on the historical and literal authors who lived in and wrote about Europe 2000 years ago. Aussies love Europe but wouldnt want to live there. The French don't like the English or the Portuguese, The Italians dont like the Greeks, The Greeks dont like the albanians or the Russians who have recently begun to immigrate to Greece. The English dont like the Jamaicans, the portuguese dont like the spanish, the list goes on and on.

We do not have any class system so even the little aussie battler can buy his own home. The Government provide them with $24,000 to enable them to purchase their little part of paradise. How many people in Europe have their own homes? my understanding is that those that do own homes are mostly inherited. We have a medical system that covers everyone, and it is free. Our specialists work out of our private and public health system through our hospitals. My mother was in hospital many many times and her hospital costs were well over $50,000, all subsidised by the government. Our aged have subsidised drugs for their conditions making it affordable for them to have the best medicines available and also the best specialists and surgeons work on both the rich and the poor. Does your government take care of your aged this well?

Per head of population Aussies contributed more than any European or American to the Tsunami appeal.

What are we doing about the Ozone? getting skin cancer because all the other billions of people in the world have contributed their polution to it. Wait until the Chinese all have a family wagon outside, and that day is not far off, then people will need to walk around in asbestos suits to protect them from the sun.

Our tax money supports Indonesia, New Guinea, the Pacific Islands etc etc and our soldiers fight other people's battles and lose their lives to protect other people from the dictators they put in power. Not only do we put money into these countries but we send our young professionals to work as volunteers. Weren't the Australians the first to go into Indonesia after the Tsunami? Our aid was there before yours even left the ground.

The UN is a farce and anyone supporting it is throwing good money after bad. NATO does far more than the UN.

Our athletes compete with and beat others with far greater populations. This is an indication of their discipline and commitment to being the best they can be. Yes, we love our sport, but do you ever hear of a riot over one of our football matches, or aussie thugs in the street getting into fights because their team lost? We have learnt to respect our competitors and take losing with dignity, albeit, remorse.

And if you want to have a go at aussies, well go ahead, we can take it. What does your posting say about what your nationalism - to criticize others?

Sorry Christina, you lost me.

Cass



christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think the best is to make effort in working together for a better 
world, not only America have its problems, they also have NASA and 
that will help everyone on this Earth from disasters, so that costs a 
lot of money, and never forget the computer,mathem machines and 
others comming from the work NASA does.
So why Cass you need to say you have all the best in your country?
What does Australie do on its OZON problem? Where that is comming 
from? And WHY Europe is an educational experience? How daring you!!!

We also Participate in NASA, gives our tax- money to Arika,India and 
more of the countries needs help.What does Austalia do On that? 
Better enjoy their sports?

Als the best for seeing this, ChristinaTL






--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "kpauljohnson" 
wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Before anyone beats me to the punch:
> JOHNSON CAN'T TELL PAGE 21 FROM PAGE 19!! Therefore nothing he 
ever 
> wrote is to be trusted :)
> 
> Cass wrote a wonderful summary, which describes every Australian 
> I've ever met in person or online. The contrasts and similarities 
> with America are evident. As an Australian visitor once told 
> me, "money talks in America" in ways that it doesn't almost 
anywhere 
> else. (And this was in the 1990s-- it's far more true now.) Our 
> disparities of wealth and poverty, and tendency to lionize the rich 
> and demonize the poor, distinguish us from all other advanced 
> industrial nations. Skipping forward to your final item, "minding 
> one's own business"-- what's that? Never heard of it in America :)
> 
> Your country is tied with Brazil for top of my list of places to 
> visit which I've haven't yet.
> 
> Thanks for sharing,
> 
> Paul
> > 
> > Most aussies have a live and let live attitude, We are not 
envious 
> of new or old money but don't like to be scammed.
> > 
> > We are tolerant of other cultures providing they dont impinge on 
> our way of life.
> > We are not particularly religious but respect the right of others 
> to practice their religion.
> > We do not take ourselves seriously and love to poke fun at 
> ourselves and others.
> > We don't like "tall poppies" and cut them down to size if we 
think 
> they need it.
> > We love it when the aussie battler wins tattslotto 
> > We get pissed off with people who don't carry their own weight, 
> and bludge off the system.
> > We love our beer, our wine, our cheese and think it is the best 
in 
> the world.
> > We love our state and think it is the best in Australia.
> > We love the sun, getting away for the weekends,sitting outside a 
> cafe enjoying a latte.
> > We love our sport and will turn anything into a competition. 
> > We love our animals
> > We hate paying taxes and interest.
> > We are multicultural but wouldnt trade our culture for any other 
> in the world.
> > We feel sorry for the brits who have to live in that cold climate.
> > We feel sorry for the americans who have to live with all those 
> guns.
> > We see Europe as an educational experience but wouldnt want to 
> live there.
> > We are against capital punishment.
> > We don't like War but stand by our allies if they ask for our 
help.
> > We will share our pay packet with other less fortunate countries 
> in need of aid.
> > We will fight to the death to support our family and our nation.
> > We will buy you a beer, share our smokes, lend you $10 but will 
> set fire to your house if you take our women/men
> > As ex-convicts we are very suspicious of any form of authority.
> > We will keep a government in power providing they keep our 
pockets 
> half full.
> > We live around the italian mafia, the triads, the eastern 
european 
> mafia, and the newly arrived vietnamese mafia.
> > If an Aussie's calls you his mate, know that your back will be 
> covered. If you do the wrong thing by him, watch your back!
> > We have pride, dignity tolerance and integrity.
> > Our contribution to the global stage is that we mind our own 
> business and let others get on with theirs.
> > 
> > Cass
> > 
> > kpauljohnson wrote:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > One thing I've been noticing about theos-talk is the incredible 
> > geographic diversity of the regular contributors. I know we have 
> > people here from Australia, Brazil, Denmark, Greece, the 
> > Netherlands, Germany, India, New Zealand-- who am I leaving out? 
> > And yet there is next to no acknowledgment of that fact, which 
> could 
> > make for some interesting discussions.
> > 
> > The whole business of subraces and rootraces etc. I find quite 
> > useless in understanding the relationships among nations. 
(Whereas 
> > some notions that are unscientific are at least hermeneutically 
> > useful, like those of Jung.) Classifying nations astrologically 
> > doesn't seem to shed much light either.
> > 
> > Frankly, I'm deeply concerned about the direction that the 
> American 
> > national character has been taking in recent years, and wondering 
> if 
> > the current period is an aberration or an expression of potential 
> > that was present all along. From being a bastion of intellectual 
> > freedom we are turning into an empire of propaganda and 
> > disinformation.
> > 
> > Enough on my worries. What are your perceptions of national 
> > character, that of your own country or others? How is it playing 
> > out on the global stage, and where does it seem to be headed? 
> > Sometimes I think it's the most crucial issue facing the world, 
> and 
> > at others I think there's no such thing.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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