Theos-Talk Archives (May 2005 Message tt00477)

About Wry, the following might be helpful.

http://theos-talk.com/archives/200209/tt00183.html
http://theos-talk.com/archives/200209/tt00189.html

I think Wry's motives was as stated in the above emails.
Wry was or rather is just of a different kind of bread than the ordinary 
western ones,
which are so prevalent in the present day forums.




from
M. Sufilight


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kpauljohnson" <kpauljohnson@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:34 PM
Subject: Theos-World Pseudonyms and cons (reply to Krishtar)


Dear Krishtar,

Honestly I had not thought about your handle being pseudonymous
because your role here has not been that of a troll. But there are
at least three occasions on which a pseudonymous poster has wrought
a lot of damage here: Wry, Brian Muelbach, and David Green.
Although I got snarked at times by all of them, others were their
primary targets. Green relentlessly attacked the ULT, writing 20
articles critical of Robert Crosbie and several anti-Judge pieces.
Occasionally people would challenge his agenda and ask him what he
was trying to do on theos-talk (including me) but no one (again
including me) ever recognized what was really going on behind the
pseudonym. I won't publicly state the facts but anyone wishing to
know them is welcome to email me privately. Everybody knew who
Brian was, but it took a while for "him" to depart. AFAIK no one
ever figured out Wry, and I'd be much obliged to anyone who did to
explain the story.

You wrote:
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "krishtar" <krishtar_a@b...>
wrote:
> Thanks for the repply.
> I confess you, pal, that I exceeded in my past trade of hostility
between me and brother Anand and can also add that I fell in the
trap of the " trolling-feed" for many times, but it is a limitation
and tendecy of personality I am trying to work on...

Shared by many of us including myself. Online sources say the
*only* proper response to trolls is to warn others not to
communicate with them. Had I not already unsubbed in horror, that
is the advice I'd have given anyone engaging thalprin in discussion.

> No matter the most we trade and exchange posts and emails here
weŽll never be able to know anyone deeply enough to understand many
of the reasons that move them, so sometimes we angage in discussions
which unfortunately and up in aggression and hostility.

Sometimes people use their anonymity or pseudonyms to stir up
aggression and hostility between others. As a matter of fact that
is a common thread among the three I've mentioned, but not Anand. I
don't think he's trying to manipulate discussion deliberately, but
is rather trolling unconsciously. (Not in his sleep, but not
realizing that the posts are trolling in nature.)

> Lately you are performing here temporary "ombudsman" on my recent
posts and I always listen to the other personŽs opinion.

Listening to the other person's opinion-- now *that* is a real
innovation at theos-talk! Well, perhaps not really but sometimes it
seems so.

> I also gess that it would make no difference if our trade of posts
were under real names instead of nicknames, hostility makes harm,
creates tensions to any person independent of their real names.

If people express hostility under their own names, they can be held
responsible for that behavior. If done pseudonymously they escape
responsibility. If they do so under pseudonyms while posting *also*
under their real names, they might come out "smelling like a rose"
while making a big stink under the pseudonym.

Cheers,

Paul







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