Theos-Talk Archives (May 2005 Message tt00087)

May 2 2005

Dallas offers:

It depends on the motive behind it, as do all things, is there some reason
for an individual to need to smoke?  

On-lookers are not privy to an individual's motives or special needs -- and
I believe no superficial conclusions are invariably right ? 


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Further, I do not recall anyone reporting that HPB 

"...Blavatsky who died with cigarette in mouth."

Who reported that ?  


Anand is this another of your fairy tales?  

Better give sources if you expect to be believed, or shoulder the entire
blame.


Or, are you quoting from:

"How She Left Us" by Laura M. Cooper

If so: What page please? What edition ? 

http://blavatskyarchives.com/cooperl1891.htm

mentions this

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Surely you don't think we are all credulous imbeciles?  

Is that the level of intelligence you are accustomed to deal with? 

Are we to draw conclusions about you from what you write?  

I do not think it takes great courage on your part to intentionally malign
someone who is dead now (in their physical body since May 8th 1891) -- 114
years ago.  

But then, pause and think, are you are safe (?) from everything but the
Karmic consequences "of spitting back in the face of a Teacher ?" 

When did you last write a SECRET DOCTRINE ? 

What has smoking to do with the value of the philosophical and
world-altering force she provided in her writings? You seem to be guilty of
not having read or understood it if you have dipped desultorily into it here
and there. 

Or, is it possible you fail to grasp even a little of that? 


Young man, you had better do some serious, and broad study. 

At no time has "quantity" overwhelmed "quality !"

Dallas
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hamilton Jr.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:48 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Anand: "...Blavatsky who died with cigarette in mouth."

I could not begin to understand how something so trivial as smoking
could deny one the passage to true spirituality.

-Mark H.

On 5/2/05, Cass Silva 
Well Daniel, if it was good enough for HPB (to die with a cigarette in her
mouth), it is good enough for me!
Cass
 
 
"Daniel H. Caldwell" <danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Anand,
 
When you have to throw in such comments as
"....Blavatsky who died with cigarette in mouth"
plus in light of some of your similar comments
in previous posts, one may wonder if Mme. Blavatsky's
smoking "bothers" you.
 
Apparently Mr. Leadbeater and Mrs. Besant were
NOT so "bothered" or "disgusted" with HPB's smoking.
 

Remember what Master Morya said to Sinnett:
 
"The sweet pulp of the orange is inside the skin...."
 

I quote some other possibly relevant passages from the
same letter of the Master's:
 

"You saw only that Bennett had unwashed hands, uncleaned nails and
used coarse language and had -- to you -- a generally unsavoury
aspect. But if that sort of thing is your criterion of moral
excellence or potential power, how many adepts or wonder producing
lamas would pass your muster? 


This is part of your blindness. Were he to die this minute -- and I'll use
a Christian phraseology to make you comprehend me the better -- few hotter
tears would drop from the eye of the recording Angel of Death over other
such ill-
used men, as the tear Bennett would receive for his share. 


Few men have suffered -- and unjustly suffered -- as he has; and as few
have
a more kind, unselfish and truthful a heart. That's all: and the
unwashed Bennett is morally as far superior to the gentlemanly Hume
as you are superior to your Bearer."
 

"... our Buddha-like friend [KH] can see thro' the varnish, the
grain of the wood beneath and inside the slimy, stinking oyster --
the 'priceless pearl within!' B---- is an honest man and of a
sincere heart, besides being one of tremendous moral courage and a
martyr to boot. 


Such our K.H. loves -- whereas he would have only
scorn for a Chesterfield and a Grandison. I suppose that the
stooping of the finished "gentleman" K.H., to the coarse fibred
infidel Bennett is no more surprising than the alleged stooping of
the 'gentleman' Jesus to the prostitute Magdalene: 


There's a moral smell as well as a physical one good friend. See how well
K.H. read your character when he would not send the Lahore youth to talk
with
you without a change of dress. The sweet pulp of the orange is
inside the skin -- Sahib: try to look inside boxes for jewels and do
not trust to those lying in the lid. I say again: the man is an
honest man and a very earnest one; not exactly an angel -- they must
be hunted for in fashionable churches, parties at aristocratical
mansions, theatres and clubs and such other sanctums -- but as
angels are outside our cosmogony we are glad of the help of even
honest and plucky tho' dirty men."
 
Daniel
http://hpb.cc