Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01811)

Daniel, in reading your post I had a thought. I have not heard of anyone  
seeing the mentioned Masters before Blavatsky and her associates. Has thereever  
been any communications of these Masters to anyone prior to her? If so, when? 
and to whom? If not, why not? I wonder why they made themselves available in 
exactly that time period and using the methods that have been described? 
Would it not be necessary to continue the work begun, once begun? So, I think it 
may be possible that others did indeed communicate with the Masters....and 
are still. 
 
Marie
 
In a message dated 4/26/2005 10:12:53 AM Central Daylight Time,  
danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com writes:



Since H.P. Blavatsky's death in 1891, numerous individuals  
have claimed contact with her Masters, stating that 
they were new "messengers" conveying further esoteric 
teachings. 

The end result has been a confusing morass of claims, 
counterclaims and various contradictory and conflicting 
teachings. 

Even during her lifetime, Mme. Blavatsky told her 
Theosophical students: 

"Great are the desecrations to which the names of two 
of the Masters have been subjected. There is hardly 
a medium who has not claimed to have seen them."

"Every bogus swindling Society, for commercial purposes, now claims 
to be guided and directed by 'Masters' often supposed to be far  
higher than ours! Many and heavy are the sins of those who advanced  
these claims, prompted either by desire for lucre, vanity, or  
irresponsible mediumship . . . ."  

Below is a partial list of the claimants: 

(1) In the 1890s, William Q. Judge said he was in contact with HPB's 
Master Morya as well as the deceased HPB. Judge claimed he 
precipitated letters from Master M. and gave out further esoteric 
teachings. 

(2) Annie Besant and Charles Leadbeater affirmed that they were in 
direct communication with HPB's Masters and the deceased HPB. They 
gave out various Theosophical teachings in their voluminous writings.

(3) Katherine Tingley, the occult successor of Judge, said she was 
in contact with HPB's Masters and claimed to have met on at least 
two occasions the Master Morya in his physical body.

(4) G. de Purucker, Tingley's successor, testified that the Masters 
M. & K.H. came to visit him in 1929 at Theosophical Society 
headquarters, Point Loma, San Diego, California. Purucker claimed 
that he was allowed to give out deeper esoteric teachings than HPB, 
Judge or Tingley had.

(5) Alice Bailey said she was in contact with Masters K.H. and D.K 
and wrote more than 20 volumes of teachings said to be from D.K. She 
even gave out further installments of the Stanzas of Dzyan.

(6) Mrs. Francia A. La Due (of the Temple of the People) gave out 
messages from the Masters, especially from Hilarion. She also  
published more Stanzas from the Book of Dzyan.

(7) Guy Ballard (of the "I Am" Movement) claimed to be in 
communication with the Masters, especially St. Germain.

(8) Helena Roerich (of the Agni Yoga Society) published some 13 
volumes of communications supposedly from the Master Morya.

(9) Mark Prophet and his wife Elizabeth Clare (of the Church  
Universal and Triumphant) claimed to be the emissaries of the Great  
White Brotherhood and have channeled thousands of messages from El  
Morya, Kut Humi, the Virgin Mary, Hercules, Chastity and a variety 
of other Masters and entities.

(10) Earlyne Chaney (of Astara) believed she was in communication 
with Kut-Hi-Mi and Zoser and other Masters of the Great White 
Brotherhood. She has given out various so-called esoteric and occult 
teachings.

(11) Nada-Yolanda (of Mark-Age, Inc) has channeled numerous messages 
from M., K.H., and others Masters associated with UFOs.

(12) George King, Max Heindel, Rudolf Steiner and Geoffrey Hodson 
have claimed clairvoyant powers and to be in contact with various  
Masters - Rosicrucian, Theosophical, extraterrestrial or otherwise.

(13) Other supposed communications from HPB's Masters have come from 
Brother Philip in his book titled Secret of the Andes, from Cyril 
Scott in his series of books starting with The Initiate, and from  
David Anrias in his book Through the Eyes of the Masters.

And the list goes on . . . .

How many of these individuals were actually in contact with 
Blavatsky's Masters?

During H.P. Blavatsky's lifetime, there were a number of individuals
who claimed to be in contact with her Masters.

For example, A.P. Sinnett wrote in his book The Early Days of  
Theosophy: 

"About this time [early July 1884] Mrs. Holloway, a wonderfully 
gifted American psychic came to stay with us. . . . .She used to get 
vivid clairvoyant visions of the Master, - could pass on messages to 
me from K.H. and on one occasion he actually made use of her to  
speak to me in the first person." p. 27 

But the Master K.H. (in a letter received July 18, 1884) pronounced 
Sinnett's claim false and untrue:  

"You ask me if you can tell Miss Arundale what I told you thro' Mrs. 
H[olloway]. . . . . .[But] I have never . . . communicated with you 
or any one else thro' her. . . . . She is an excellent but quite  
undeveloped clairvoyante. . . . ." The Mahatma Letters, 2nd ed., p.  
355 

During this same summer, Master KH wrote to Mrs. Holloway:

"Your vivid creative fancy [imagination] evokes illusive Gurus and 
chelas, and puts into their mouths words coined the instant before 
in the mint of your mind, unknown to yourself."

"The false appear as real, as the true, and you have no exact method 
of detection since you are yet prone to force your communications to 
agree with your preconceptions. . . . " Mrs. Holloway and the 
Mahatmas, Letter 17  

Elsewhere Master KH wrote:

"Vainly do your modern seers and their prophetesses, creep into 
every cleft and crevice without outlet or continuity they chance to 
see; and still more vainly, when once within do they lift up their 
voices and loudly cry: 'Eureka! We have gotten a revelation from the 
Lord!' — for verily have they nothing of the kind. They have 
disturbed but bats, less blind their intruders; who, feeling them 
flying about, mistake them as often for angels — as they too have 
wings! . . . "   
Master Koot Hoomi, The Mahatma Letters, 2nd ed., Letter 48

How many of the claimants listed above who have proclaimed in 
effect: "Eureka! We have gotten a revelation or message from the 
Masters!" were in reality simply victims of their own "vivid 
creative fancy [imagination]" which conjured up "illusive Gurus and  
chelas" and attributed to these imaginary Masters "words coined the  
instant before in the mint of" their own minds?? 

Another example of this constructing of imaginary people is as 
follows:

Stainton Moses (a famous English medium and "seer" of the 1870s and 
1880s) wrote to A.P. Sinnett about his own "spirit guide" Imperator:

". . . my inner spirit-sense is opened. Only yesterday . . . 
Imper[ator] . . . was clearly visible and audible to me. . . . "

To this comment by Stainton Moses [S.M.], Master Koot Hoomi wrote to 
Sinnett:

". . . So is Jesus and John the Baptist [clearly visible and 
audible] to Edward Maitland; [who is] as true and as honest and 
sincere as S.M. . . . And does not E. Maitland see Hermes the first 
and second and Elijah, etc."  

"Finally does not Mrs. [Anna] Kingsford feel as sure as S.M. with  
regard to . . . [Imperator] that she saw and conversed with 
God!! . . . And who purer or more truthful than that woman or  
Maitland!"

"Mystery, mystery will you exclaim. IGNORANCE we answer; the 
creation of that we believe in and want to see. . . . " The Mahatma  
Letters, 2nd ed., Letter 90.

...THE CREATION OF THAT WE BELIEVE IN AND WANT TO SEE.....

So a student of Theosophy might ask himself:

Do I believe all of these individuals were actually in contact with 
Blavatsky's Masters? And if the answer is no, then how do I  
DETERMINE which ones were actually in real contact with her Masters?

Furthermore, how many of these individuals were victims of their own
"vivid creative fancy"? Master K.H.'s words are quite revealing and 
sobering:

"Your vivid creative fancy [imagination] evokes illusive Gurus and 
chelas, and puts into their mouths words coined the instant before 
in the mint of your mind, unknown to yourself."

Food for thought.

Daniel
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