Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01556)

In a message dated 04/23/05 4:31:05 AM, silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

>"M. Sufilight" <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
>
>Hallo all,
>
>My views are:
>
>We find the following on the website of The Aetherius Society:
>
>"WHY HASN'T MAINSTREAM SCIENCE DETECTED THIS LIFE?
>Mainstream science is often years behind metaphysical knowledge. Expert
>occultists over the centuries have known of life on other Planets living on 
>higher spheres of existence. They maintained that this life existed on a 
>Spiritual level or at a higher vibratory rate.
>
>This is similar to the astral planes on Earth. After a human being dies, he 
>sheds his physical body and exists solely in his astral body. He continues
>to experience life on the astral planes until it is time to reincarnate into 
>another physical body. Mediums have communicated with people 'on the other
>side', showing that people living on the astral planes, although invisible
>to most, are nevertheless living and real.
>
>People who have had near-death experiences report meeting with deceased
>friends and relatives in another world, before they come back to their
>physical bodies. When their consciousness moves briefly into their astral
>body, they can see others in astral bodies living on the subtle planes of 
>Earth. Similarly, some who have had out-of-body experiences are seeing
>the subtle planes through their astral bodies during the state of sleeping.
>The Cosmic Masters on other Planets in our Solar System have gained control
>over their physical bodies to the extent that They can change Their 
>vibratory rate. They choose to exist on the higher vibratory realms 
>permanently. Evidence of Their past habitation of the physical level of
>Their Planets has been photographed by NASA, in the Cydonia region of Mars.
>This includes several large pyramids and the well known Face on Mars."
>www.aetherius.org/NewFiles/About_Us_FAQs.html#2
>
>These views about were we go when we die is not in accordance with the
>theosophical teachings by either Blavatsky or even Alice A. Bailey.
>I would like to know, why the above is true and the other two writers are
>wrong?
>
>When we die, we are not only living in our Astral bodies.
>I know this to be a fact, since I have experienced this.

All of it could be a figment of the writers imagination, as well as the 
fantasies of all the others who see faces in photographs from Mars and wish to 
believe they were carved by men like themselves. It's almost the same as seeing a 
dragon in a cloud (which I once saw and painted) -- or another time, while 
staring at a cloud I saw it form into an idyllic scene of three beautiful nymphs 
in forest glade. :-) There's no limit to how far the imagination can take 
us. 

The so called "evidence" given in the above fantasy has long been discredited 
by further pictures of Sedona, as nothing more than changing plays of light 
and shadow on a natural formation. It's better if these metaphysical myth 
makers stick closer to home for proof of extraterrestrial life. I wonder who 
carved "Indian Rock" that is an almost perfect profile of a Native American Indian 
(which, on closer look, can also be seen as a natural formation of erosion on 
a mountain in the American western desert)? :-)

The above story about the people who wander in the Astral after death, as 
well as anyone talking about meeting and communicating with their dead relatives, 
are probably suffering from the same self fulfilling delusions that have 
people seeing Martians walking around wearing stovepipe Top hats. 

Blavatsky told us the nature of the after death states that were totally in 
conformance with fundamental principles as well as with the metaphysical 
science underlying the Cosmogenesis and Anthropogenesis explained in the SD. Any 
true student of occultist can make the comparisons, apply the immutable laws of 
occult science to all these accounts, and see that all the explanations of 
life in the after death states that came after the SD, are pure fantasies, and 
all their so called evidential proofs nothing more than seeing shadows as being r
eal objects.

Whatever we know as a fact of our own personal experiences after death, which 
could easily be a self created delusion, false memory, or our own body 
chemistry induced hallucination, etc. -- is not proof that such an experience is 
true for anyone else. When I had an after death experience, all that went 
through my mind was my own life review -- while I experienced the astral light that 
was behind me illumination the scene of my own body lying on the ground and 
all the people around it. This may prove to me that there is consciousness 
after death, but it doesn't prove it for anyone else, or that my naked Astral 
body could be talking to someone (awake or in a trance or dream) who sees me 
wearing clothes. As soon as someone reports such encounters, you can be sure they 
are NOT clairvoyant and simply hallucinating -- compelled by their own wish 
fulfilling fantasies, or to impress others with their wisdom and superiority. 

BTW, when and how did you experience your death, that make you so sure that 
we live in our Astral Body when we die? (Not that I have any doubt that we do, 
since I've been there and my ABC theory based on HPB's metaphysics is 
logically consistent with its necessity. :-)

Just my view,

LHM