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re "faith" re exoteric/orthodox vs. esoteric/WisdomTradition

Apr 20, 2005 05:24 PM
by Mauri


Mauri wrote partly:

Apparenly
these cults are turning their members
into mindless zombies (as if "unity with
God" can be accomplished by a certain
kind of mindless "faith") who work for
them for free in isolated cult
communities after having handed over
their savings.
In reference to the word "faith" in that sentence, what Mauri might've meant, I think, might be that he might have a tentative or speculative preference in some contexts, senses, cases, maybe, for some sort of "awareness" or "apparent stance" in keeping with whatever interest he might think or speculate that he might have by way of ... whatever. He seems to find the word "faith" kind of potentially problematic or suspect as it might generally tend to get interpreted, apparently thinking that one might get oneself into some sort of corner if one finds that one's "faith-based" directives are lacking in "enough foundations," possibly finding instead some basically imagined-but-unreal "faith." He doesn't seem to think that some "faith" could exist and cultishly replace one's thoughts and interpretive tendencies about that "faith." He seems to think that there are people who have fooled themselves into taking up some kind of faith in a faith, as if that were somehow "advisable with faith" in some sense, but without reference to an intermediary mental/interpretive aspect, as if the rest of one's self, life, karma, mind, background, interpretive tendencies, etc, could be "faithfully" or unquestioningly replaced not by way of such as the Esoteric/Wisdom Tradition, but with something that might appear to be, in effect, "directly faith-based," in contrast to "interpreted," as in terms of, in effect, an all-consuming, dictatorial short-cut (to "God," "Jesus," "Master," "Higher Self," "Enlightenment," "Liberation" or whatever). I suspect that Mauri thinks that such short-cuts generally tend to be basically unrealistic, in some sense, and generally tend to make for "bad karma."
Though I suppose he might've heard about something like "sudden enlightenment," eg, but he seems to think that, generally speaking, cult-based faiths and things like "sudden enlightenment" might generally tend to be different enough in some ways so that some kind of differentiating between the two might be worthwhile in some sense, in some cases, maybe.

Speculatively,
Mauri

PS Yes, my name happens to be Mauri, as well. How many Mauri's are there? As many as it takes, I guess.









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