Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt00676)

Mark
Can I help with some thoughts?
Well, let“s here define what elementaires and dugpas are, according to Th. Glossary:
( don“t mind if I am being influenced by brother Dal! ;-) )


Elementaires:

" Properly, the disembodied souls of the depraved; these souls having at some time prior to death separated from themselves their divine spirits, and so lost their chance for immortality; but at the present stage of learning it has been thought best to apply the term to the spooks or phantoms of disembodied persons, in general, to those whose temporary habitation is the Kāma Loka. Eliphas Levi and some other Kabbalists make little distinction between elementary spirits who have been men, and those beings which peoplethe elements, and are the blind forces of nature. Once divorced from theirhigher triads and their bodies, these souls remain in their Kāma-rupic envelopes, and are irresistibly drawn to the earth amid elements congenial to their gross natures. Their stay in the Kāma Loka varies as to its duration; but ends invariably in disintegration, dissolving like a column of mist, atom by atom, in the surrounding elements." (theosophical Glossary)

Dugpas - also called Brothers of the Shadow 

Brothers of the Shadow. A name given by the Occultists to Sorcerers, and especially to the Tibetan Dugpas, of whom there are many in the Bhon sect of the Red Caps (Dugpa). The word is applied to all practitioners of black or left hand magic. (ibidem)

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Some personal explanations:

(Part of the explanations will be sent privately if you wish ( in order notto extend))

The basic matter of these assaults are the concentrated thought forms ( magick ), induced artificially or created by rituals.
In these rituals not only the thought-forms created are used but also the elementaires. 
There are cases in which the elementaires or any "rupas" are not used but the thought-forms are so huge that they do the wickedness themselves.
The effect although physical, will hardly originate from a - let“s call -materialized dugpa, but always using the subtle planes.
There are zillions of types of creatures that are used to do the work, frombizarre zoomorphic forms to semi-intelligent beings, malformed or not, inhabitants of very lower levels.
The attacks, to cut the story short, are:
Much (if not ) of all the things in physical form is also made of etheric matter. 
It is said that many diseases prior to the manifestation in the flesh have their origin in the ethereal field, so objects and illness of all kinds canbe generated and directed to you.
If the thusly be an inexplicable weakness, a headache, a difficult in seeing, access of spasms, sluggishness, lowering and difficulty in thinking, acting, recognizing. 
The harm can lower your creativity and vitality of many kinds.
Remember that many ordinary people during the day are common persons, but by night they can act differently.
The dugpa doesn“t come in uniform, you know, it can be anyone among millions, and if they are conscious from their nature they can recognize you.
It is said that many enemies end up acquainted across incarnations and iI witnessed a case in which the dark-brother recongnized the enemy and also recognized the fellow.Incredible.
It all looks like freak talking...but it“s true. 
I hope it can also be of any help.
Regards
Your friend 
E. Krishtar



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mark Hamilton Jr. 
To: Theosophy 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:54 PM
Subject: Theos-World Psychical Assaults



I hear mention of these many times. From elemantaries to dugpa
attacking people psychically. But what actually happens to you if you
are thusly assaulted?

-Mark H.

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Mark Hamilton Jr.
waking.adept@gmail.com


   
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