Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt00182)

-So! They do not know, that all what one persues(strives after)from 
selfish purpose he/she will not reach or have.

Christina










-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@A...> 
wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > I think every seeker goes through this painful stage when he 
left 
> > > ordinary world but has not yet reached self-realization.
> 
> Leaving ordinary world means not giving up all the comforts and 
> become sanyasi. It means person has decided to reach self-
realization 
> and he does not live merely for material pleasures as is the 
> condition of many people. 
> 
> Anand Gholap
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" 
> > > <christinaleestemaker@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Interesthing subject!
> > > > Do you know such person(s) or can you give an example of that?
> > > > 
> > > > I think I know one EST'er living that way and you are right; 
> > > without 
> > > > having the Ultimate Reality it is more than painful and a 
wrong 
> > > > experience.
> > > > That is why I hate experiences in such way!
> > > > 
> > > > Christina
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand Gholap" 
> > <AnandGholap@A...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Person approaching the path of discipleship feels 
> worthlessness 
> > > of 
> > > > > things of the ordinary world and he is not satisfied with 
> them. 
> > > In 
> > > > > this stage, in a sense, he has left ordinary world but has 
> not 
> > > > gained 
> > > > > knowledge of Ultimate Reality by direct experience. So it 
is 
> > > > painful 
> > > > > state. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > However Theosophy greatly helps and reduces sorrow because it 
> > > > > explains to the aspirant importance of experiences which 
made 
> > him 
> > > > > evolve and brought to a state where he seeks even higher 
> > > knowledge 
> > > > of 
> > > > > spiritual things. And when aspirant knows by study of 
> Theosophy 
> > > > this 
> > > > > gradual process of evolution he becomes certain that same 
> > > > > evolutionary process will ineviably take him to Nirvana 
> > although 
> > > > time 
> > > > > taken for it will depend on how wisely he lives his life 
and 
> > > > > cooperate with factors working for evolution. So Theosophy, 
> > when 
> > > > > understood properly, can reduce pain and sorrow of the 
> aspirant 
> > > > > greatly.
> > > > > Anand Gholap
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand Gholap" 
> > > > <AnandGholap@A...> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > [ www.AnandGholap.net - Online Books on Theosophy ]
> > > > > > " For the Masters are the distributors of the spiritual 
> > > energies 
> > > > > that help on human evolution, and the use of these for the 
> > > swifter 
> > > > > growth of a single soul is only permitted when that soul 
> shows 
> > a 
> > > > > capacity for rapid progress and can thus be quickly fitted 
to 
> > > > become 
> > > > > a helper of the race, returning to it the aid that had been 
> > > > afforded 
> > > > > to himself. When a man, by his own efforts, utilising to 
the 
> > full 
> > > > all 
> > > > > the general help coming to him through religion and 
> philosophy, 
> > > has 
> > > > > struggled onwards to the front of the advancing human wave 
> and 
> > > when 
> > > > > he shows a loving, selfless, helpful nature, then he 
becomes 
> a 
> > > > > special object of attention to the watchful Guardians of 
the 
> > > race, 
> > > > > and opportunities are put in his way to test his strength 
and 
> > > call 
> > > > > forth his intuition.In proportion as he successfully uses 
> > these, 
> > > he 
> > > > > is yet further helped, and glimpses are afforded to him of 
> the 
> > > true 
> > > > > life, until the unsatisfactory and unreal nature of mundane 
> > > > existence 
> > > > > presses more and more on the soul, with the result already 
> > > > mentioned –
> > > > > the weariness which makes him long for freedom and brings 
> him 
> > to 
> > > > the 
> > > > > gateway of the probationary Path. 
> > > > > >           
> 664.  
> > > His 
> > > > > entrance on his Path places him in the position of a 
disciple 
> > or 
> > > > > chelâ, on probation, and some one Master takes him under 
His 
> > > care, 
> > > > > recognising him as a man who has stepped out of the highway 
> of 
> > > > > evolution, and seeks the Teacher who shall guide his steps 
> > along 
> > > > the 
> > > > > steep and narrow path which leads to liberation. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >           
> 665.  
> > > > That 
> > > > > Teacher is awaiting him at the very entrance of the Path, 
and 
> > > even 
> > > > > though the neophyte knows not his Teacher, his Teacher 
knows 
> > him, 
> > > > > sees his efforts, directs his steps, leads him into the 
> > > conditions 
> > > > > that best subserve his progress, watching over him with the 
> > > tender 
> > > > > solicitude of a mother, and with the wisdom born of perfect 
> > > > insight. 
> > > > > The road may seem lonely and dark, and the young disciple 
may 
> > > fancy 
> > > > > himself deserted, but a "friend who sticketh closer than a 
> > > brother" 
> > > > > is ever at hand, and the help withheld from the senses is 
> given 
> > > to 
> > > > > the soul. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >           
> 666.  
> > > > There 
> > > > > are four definite "qualifications" that the probationary 
> chelâ 
> > > must 
> > > > > set himself to acquire, that are by the wisdom of the great 
> > > > > Brotherhood laid down as the conditions of full 
discipleship. 
> > > They 
> > > > > are not asked for in perfection, but they must be striven 
for 
> > and 
> > > > > partially possessed ere Initiation is permitted.The first 
of 
> > > these 
> > > > is 
> > > > > the discrimination between the real and the unreal which 
has 
> > been 
> > > > > already dawning on the mind of the pupil, and which drew 
him 
> to 
> > > the 
> > > > > Path on which he is now entered; the distinctions grows 
clear 
> > and 
> > > > > sharply defined in his mind, and gradually frees him to a 
> great 
> > > > > extent from the fetters which bind him, for the second 
> > > > qualification, 
> > > > > indifference to external things, comes naturally in the 
wake 
> of 
> > > > > discrimination, from the clear perception of their 
> > > worthlessness. " 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Complet book can be read at
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.anandgholap.net/Ancient_Wisdom-AB.htm