Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt00061)

April 3 2005

RE: Tzongkhapa , permanence, temporariness

Dear Mark:

Suppose we turn the statement around?

To be able to make it, some one or a group of persons, are NOT subject to
variation. They have achieved stability. [If not on our plane of
variableness, then on some other, possibly designated SPIRITUAL (as in ATMA
or PARAMATMA) in the ideal sense ? ]

It is possible that in and on this plane of materiality there is continual
atomic and subatomic, molecular and other "motions" -- making for changes.
And then on planes still more subtle (some of which are beginning to be
observable) there are causal and stable bases ?

But behind or within those that are so mutable, there has to be something
that directs, channels and conditions all such measurable effects -- or we
are faced with a chaotic randomness -- but then law and rhythm and cycles
would contradict that. 

Logical a CAUSE is screamed for.

Any ideas?

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kusek 
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Tzongkhapa , permanence, temporariness

Subject: RE: Tzongkhapa , permanence, temporariness

>From: "Gerald Schueler" <gschueler@earthlink.net>
>
>When followed to its logical conclusion, EVERYTHING KNOWABLE is temporary
>and changing and conditional. Both imputational reality and conditional
>reality (ie the knowable) change over time, while ultimate reality is
>totally ineffable and unknowable. Even though it is ineffable and
>unknowable, it exists because we can experience it.
>

The implications of that statement are staggering.


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