Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt00011)

> So, Z is an issue for you then ? Okay, I heard that. :)

No I thought this Z person was an *actual* person, per se, on the
mailing list, that was causing a problem.


> Hmmmm, statistical analysis is gonna proof your spirituality - hey,
> when did this averaging start happening ?
> I think you should... what was it, oh, yeah, 'believe' anything you
> wanna believe.

What other proof is there? H.P.B. said herself, that people don't have
to follow in blind faith. I'm trying to rationalize my belief instead
of just blindly following something.


-Mark H.


> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Hamilton Jr."
> <waking.adept@g...> wrote:
> > I misunderstood, after reading what 'Z' is I know what you were
> > referring to. I thought it was someone who had done something on
> this
> > list to deserve general disapproval, which I've seen happen on
> other
> > unrelated mailing lists.
> >
> > Regardless, my main standing argument is that this seems highly
> > unlikely just to happen by chance, even though it still could.
> Usually
> > science has a reason for such statistical phenomena, but I can't
> look
> > to science in this area. And if someone such as H.P.B. were to
> receive
> > messages from a master I see no reason why it couldn't happen to
> > someone else.
> >
> > True -- number guessing is not very spiritual. I'm just using a
> > statistical method to back up my claims. I have no other way to
> > empirically (with my own senses) verify what has happened, because
> it
> > is wholly and entirely anomolous; there's nothing that can prove
> that
> > this is or isn't real, but such an experiment would lead me to
> believe
> > that this is the more likely cause.
> >
> >
> > -Mark H.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 1, 2005 12:12 PM, thalprin <thalprin@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Z? Hmmmm, folks feelings about this is that an issue for you?
> > >
> > > Perhaps, you're not understanding my suggestion judging by the 1
> in
> > > 160 trillions remark.
> > >
> > > Extreme ideals? Hmmmmm, like what for instance?
> > >
> > > The discussion of what: Z, numbers-odds a/o spiritual concerns?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Hamilton Jr."
> > > <waking.adept@g...> wrote:
> > > > Judging from the sarcastic tone, I'm guessing this is
> critical. I
> > > see
> > > > from other postings that apparently some people have a grudge
> > > against
> > > > Z? Strangely enough, this is a discussion on theosophy--surely
> > > you'd
> > > > think everyone would get along, even if they had extreme
> ideals?
> > > >
> > > > I digress; this was what I was looking for, I suppose. a 1 in
> 160
> > > > trillion chance is just that--even how improbable something
> is, it
> > > > still can happen.
> > > >
> > > > I will still be waiting to hear from more people. I'm sure
> there's
> > > > something to this, and if it's not real then I still wish to
> > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > >
> > > > -Mark H.
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 1, 2005 11:35 AM, thalprin <thalprin@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I can roll double sixs 11 times in a row -however- I wouldn't
> > > > > consider that a spiritual event nor a 'proofing'.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't play cards much -and- sometimes I can even see the
> other
> > > > > players cards (through the mist) -however- I'd consider that
> > > this is
> > > > > not a spiritual exercise either.
> > > > >
> > > > > hehe, is his name Z ?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Hamilton Jr."
> > > > > <waking.adept@g...> wrote:
> > > > > > "I must be losing it," I thought. So recently I decided to
> ask
> > > > > > Whitney, my girlfriend, and the only person in my life who
> > > would
> > > > > never
> > > > > > pass judgement on me, to test if this was real. I told her
> > > > > everything,
> > > > > > and we set up an experiment. She would randomly pick a
> number
> > > from
> > > > > > 1-10. I would ask my master to procure the number for me,
> and I
> > > > > would
> > > > > > say it. I was right, dead on, 4 times, and I was wrong the
> one
> > > > > time I
> > > > > > guessed myself (I added a control). That has a 1 in 1000
> > > chance of
> > > > > > happening, statistically. Not too bad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We went further. I asked her to guess a number between 1
> and
> > > 20.
> > > > > 3/3
> > > > > > correct, that's a 1 in 8,000 chance, altogether a chance
> of 1
> > > in
> > > > > > 8,000,000. We continued until the probability of guessing
> was
> > > > > > estimated at about 1 in 160 trillion. I made sure to
> randomly
> > > guess
> > > > > > the number myself at various times (I guessed right once
> out of
> > > > > the 15
> > > > > > times I did this). At this point, it was highly improbable
> > > that it
> > > > > was
> > > > > > just luck. So I put some trust in the guy.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Mark H.
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > waking.adept@g...
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