Re: Explaining inexplicable loyalty to CWL
Mar 29, 2005 04:58 PM
by stevestubbs
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "kpauljohnson" <kpauljohnson@y...>
wrote:
> "Showing" something to be true has no effect to those who refuse
> to be shown. Have you ever seen a CWL devotee even acknowledge
> reading The Elder Brother, let alone offer a substantive
> criticism? No, it's all fingers-in-the-ears I-can't-hear-you
> la-la-la. E.g. Radha's non-response to Perry.
I have been studying Piaget for a test I have coming up, and he has a
concept of "equilibration" which means as people assimilate (i.e.,
take in new information) they are compelled to accomodate (i.e.,
revise their belief systems to avoid dissonance.) If you want to
avoid accomodating (not that anyone would) it may be necessary to
aggressively filter out new information (i.e., avoid assimilating).
That explains why theosophists are careful to read only
theosophically correct points of view, preferably the same books over
and over and over. It also explains why they go into a rage when any
southern fried librarians intrude with views that are not safe. What
it does not explain is how and why people choose which nonsense they
wish to believe. That includes not just CWL but Joseph Smith, Ellen
White, pupe Wojtyla, Elizabeth Prophet, and others. It also does not
explain why accomodating is such a dreadful thing, to be avoided at
all cost. The catholics use horrible threats to keep their people in
line, but CWL did not.
Intriguingly someone recently raised the argument that it may all be
hogwash, but they have decided to classify it a religious belief, and
therefore to examine it is disrespectful to the people who wish to
believe it. That is of course mere evasion and not an honest search
for the truth.
> I would say the gold standard is truth, not HPB, and CWL has
> been found wanting on that score
Well, yes, but when CWL pontificates on some subject that cannot be
confirmed except by clairvoyant investigation and theosophists refuse
to attack the problem practically (i.e., by clairvoyant means) the
only option remaining to them is to consult their guru. How could
one scientifically examine his claim that the logos is three little
balls suspended in mid-air? The idea is ridiculous on the face of
it, but how would one test it if disinclined to reject it a priori?
Since HPB defined what theosophy is, and since CWL's stuff is totally
idiosyncratic, it makes sense that theosophists would appeal to HPB's
stuff as proof that CWL was not teaching theosophy.
As for the atomic weights issue you bring up, the issue should be
whether Leadbeater anticipated any scientific discovery of
significance that occurred AFTER his book was published. Since the
atomic weights were known before, they are not significant as
evidence in favor of his clairvoyance. The notion that matter is
made of atoms goes all the way back to Leucippus.
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