Theos-Talk Archives (March 2005 Message tt00599)

Mar 26 2005

RE: Love/emotion


Dear E:

You write: "There are deep mysteries in the universe that the human mind can
never fathom. ..."

I think according to THEOSOPHY you are making an error.

Consider:

The UNIVERSE / SPACE / DEITY / GOD are synonyms for the UNITY and, the
brotherhood of all beings and things in THAT / ONE / UNITY / ALL /
ABSOLUTENESS / the ONE UNIVERSAL SELF . 

Hence MIND / THOUGHT / LOGIC / DEDUCTION / ANALYSIS / are all subordinate
faculties or LIMITED aspects of the ONE ALL.

Each human being thus shares in the ONE. THEOSOPHY calls it the ATMA and
this is also the highest faculty of any and all human beings.

"GOD" is said to be OMNIPRESENT -- present everywhere -- without any
exceptions. Hence every human has, as an immortal, spiritual, deific basis,
a "ray" or a "spark" of the Divine ONE BEING -- the UNIVERSAL SELF. 

This is a quality that all living things enjoy. The great unity of all
beings is the UNIVERSE - and the qualities of the UNIVERSE are all
focussed in every minutest atom of SPACE. 

There is no special location for GOD, nor for a "devil" outside the
UNIVERSE. There are no exceptions to ALL. 

Why therefore is there any diversity and any evil? Why do we think of
ourselves as "separate" from each other and from "GOD?"  

It is the limited and always changing material form we use that distracts.
But "we" (the Real Human Being) are also the masters of our Mind and its
thinking. So "we" can control it, and direct it, and place it on any
subject we choose or desire.

What is "love?" Is it not attraction -- and that is only half of a law, as
repulsion
is the counter-balancing other half. So we, as an independent chooser, are
always in the middle. We may say we are influenced, but in the last
analysis, the final decision is always free, and is OURS.

The great UNIVERSE is run under LAW and also, in every near or distant
place, it reflects the one great LAW by (what appears to us to be) many
"laws." 

But these are all impersonal and universal, and in our "heart" we know
these.

Before making a bad choice our "Voice of Conscience" [the voice of Buddhi -
wisdom] speaks, and warns us all -- of the danger of bad choices that bring
pain and suffering to us, as they did before. It is the "Voice of Wisdom
and Experience." It is always true, and acts to promote and protect
universal brotherhood. It so, it also tries to protect us from repeating
errors of judgment.

See if this is correct,

Best wishes,

Dallas

PS Here are some notes on LOVE

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LOVE, COOPERATION, COMPASSION, MERCY  

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KAMADEVA and the MONAD


Man is the miniature of the universe. As above, so below.

Ancient teachings on “creation” or rather the reincarnation of the Universe
feature the “sundering of the ONE.”

Thereafter LIFE, MOTION, ENERGY, PURPOSE, and THE POWER OF INDEPENDENT
SELF-CHOICE, being universally diffused ( no limits) the ‘PLENUM” was
filled with the returning to life of the armies (?) of immortal MONADS, each
under KARMA-UNIVERSAL resuming its position and work from the place and area
where Pralaya had overcome it. 

Kamadeva (to me) signifies an emblem that illustrates HARMONY and
COOPERATION hence compassion and care for one’s brother MONADS, wherever
they may be and in whatever avenue of serve they (and we) may be.

It is to be understood that KARMA causes the reincarnation of universes, it
is an indissoluble aspect of the ABSOLUTE..  

What we think of as SPIRIT and MATTER are aspects of Karma and since they
neutralize each other they may be considered “married” or eternally united.
(Not sexually, but electro-magnetically -- if that may be used as an
illustration). 

[Alchemically the union of the “Red Virgin” and the “Philosopher’s Stone.”
-- If one can accept the idea that the “Red Virgin” symbolizes KAMA, (or
selfish desire being in fact the densest “MATTER”) and the “PHILOSOPHER’S
STONE” (that dissolves any and all “containers” is a symbol for the ONE
SPIRIT which is universal).  

This leads me to the concept of the (our) MONAD (whether 1) universal as an
infinitude of infinitesimal living vibrant points of intelligent life
(string theory?) -- or 2) Personal: the limits of personalized and selfish
“desire” are to be continually contrasted with the universality and
impersonality of the ONE SPIRIT (a “ray” of which is said to inhere in each
human). For the purpose of our understanding ourselves as intelligent and
free MONADS in evolution, we use the words “Matter” and ”Spirit” – and those
need further definition. One of these will be found in S D I 167 (on the
2 EGOS in Man – I have many references on this in the SECRET DOCTRINE …)

One of the strange things in considering the evolution of Humanity is the
fact that apparently some of the Divine MONADS ( Kumaras ?) who first
delayed, but later agreed to “create,” actually took up residence (as akind
of overseeing but non-meddling TUTOR in each human lower Mind that was
approaching individualization and the trials and tasks relative to such a
condition (ours at present). [ see TRANSACTIONS, p 62 to 67] 



KAMADEVA [GOD OF LOVE / COMPASSION ]


KAMADEVA (Sk.). In the popular notions the god of love, a Visva-deva, in the
Hindu Pantheon. As the Eros of Hesiod, degraded into Cupid by exoteric law,
and still more degraded by a later popular sense attributed to the term, so
is Kama a most mysterious and metaphysical subject. 

The earlier Vedic description of Kama alone gives the key-note to what he
emblematizes. Kama is the first conscious, all embracing desire for
universal good, love, and for all that lives and feels, needs help and
kindness, the first feeling of infinite tender compassion and mercy that
arose in the consciousness of the creative ONE Force, as soon as it came
into life and being as a ray from the ABSOLUTE. Says the Rig Veda, 

“Desire first arose in IT, which was the primal germ of mind, and which
Sages, searching with their intellect, have discovered in their heart to be
the bond which connects Entity with non-Entity”, or Manas with pure
Atma-Buddhi.” THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY 170-1

(DTB	see S D I 44-6, 570; II 65, 79, 176, 578-9, J.
Letters 60; G N p. 227; Glos 121, 217) Remarkable and needs careful
analyzing with relation to our inner self.)

[DTB This is to be thought over metaphysically and universally and then
we can see it in our own septenary constitution (meditation?).]

There is no idea of sexual love in the conception. Kama is pre-eminently the
divine desire of creating happiness and love; and it is only ages later, as
mankind began to materialize by anthropomorphization its grandest ideals
into cut and dried dogmas, that Kama became the power that gratifies desire
on the animal plane. 

This is shown by what every Veda and some Brahmanas say. In the Atharva
Veda, Kama is represented as the Supreme Deity and Creator. In the Taitarîya
Brahmana, he is the child of Dharma, the god of Law and Justice, of Sraddha
and faith. In another account he springs from the heart of Brahmâ. Others
show him born from water, i.e., from primordial chaos, or the “Deep”. Hence
one of his many names, Irâ-ja, “the water-born”; and Aja, “unborn” ; and
Atmabhu or “Self-existent”. Because of the sign of Makara (Capricornus)on
his banner, he is also called “ Makara Ketu”.

The allegory about Siva, the “Great Yogin”, reducing Kama to ashes by the
fire from his central (or third) Eye, for inspiring the Mahadeva with
thoughts of his wife, while he was at his devotions—is very suggestive, as
it is said that he thereby reduced Kama to his primeval spiritual form.
(Glos 170-1)


Eyes (divine). The “eyes” the Lord Buddha developed in him at the twentieth
hour of his vigil when sitting under the BO-tree, when he was attaining
Buddhaship. They are the eyes of the glorified Spirit, to which matter is no
longer a physical impediment, and which have the power of seeing all things
within the space of the limitless Universe. 0n the following morning of that
night, at the close of the third watch, the “ Merciful One” attained the
Supreme Knowledge.”  
-- T. Glos 117



DIVINE WILL BECOMES EROS.


“Water is the symbol of the female element everywhere; mater, from which the
letter M, is derived pictorially from [[diagram]] a water hieroglyph. It is
the universal matrix or the "Great Deep." Venus, the great Mother-Virgin,
issues forth from the Sea-wave, and Cupid or Eros is her son. But Venus is
the later mythological variant of Gaia (or Gaea), the Earth, which, in its
higher aspect is Nature (Prakriti), and metaphysically Aditi, and even
Mulaprakriti, the root of Prakriti or its noumenon. 

Hence Cupid or LOVE in his primitive sense IS EROS, the Divine Will, or
Desire of manifesting itself through visible creation. Thence Fohat, the
prototype of Eros, becomes on Earth the great power "Life-electricity," or
the Spirit of "Life-giving."	S D, II, Page 65



“THE EVOLUTION OF THE PRINCIPLES of Thought) REFLECTS ITSELF IN CHHAYALOKA
(the shadowy world of primal form, or the intellectual) THE FIRST GARMENT OF
(the) ANUPADAKA (c). 

(a) This tracing of "Spiral lines" refers to the evolution of man's as well
as Nature's principles; an evolution which takes place gradually (as will be
seen in Book II., on "The origin of the Human Races"), as does everything
else in nature. The Sixth principle in Man (Buddhi, the Divine Soul) though
a mere breath, in our conceptions, is still something material when compared
with divine "Spirit" (Atma) of which it is the carrier or vehicle. Fohat, in
his capacity of DIVINE LOVE (Eros), the electric Power of affinity and
sympathy, is shown allegorically as trying to bring the pure Spirit, the Ray
inseparable from the ONE absolute, into union with the Soul, the two
constituting in Man the MONAD, and in Nature the first link between the ever
unconditioned and the manifested. "The first is now the second" (world) --
of the Lipikas
-- has reference to the same.”	S D 1, p. 119

.

“Number 5 was composed of a binary and a ternary, which binary threw
everything in the perfect form into disorder and confusion. The perfect man,
they said, was a quaternary and a ternary, or four material and three
immaterial elements; which three spirits or elements we likewise find in 5,
when it represents the microcosm. The latter is a compound of a binary
directly relating to gross matter, and of three Spirits: 

"Since 5 is the ingenious union of two Greek accents placed over vowels
which have or have not to be aspirated. The first sign is called 'Strong
Spirit' or superior Spirit, the spirit of God aspired (spiritus) and
breathed by man. The second sign the lower, is the SPIRIT OF LOVE,
representing the secondary Spirit; the third embraces the whole man. It is
the universal Quintessence, the vital fluid or Life." (Ragon.) “
S D II, p. 576 



“EROS: LOVE, desire. The Greek philosophers said there are two gods of that
name: a terrestrial Eros, who is the god of sexual attraction and the life
energy, and a celestial Eros, who is the god of divine love, which brings
the universe into being.”	S D II, p. 576 



“Venus Aphrodite is the personified Sea, and the mother of the god of LOVE,
the generator of all the gods as much as the Christian Virgin Mary is Mare
(the sea), the mother of the Western God of LOVE, Mercy and Charity. If the
student of Esoteric philosophy thinks deeply over the subject he is sure to
find out all the suggestiveness of the term Ambhamsi, in its manifold
relations to the Virgin in Heaven, to the Celestial Virgin of the
Alchemists, and even to the "Waters of Grace" of the modern Baptist.”
S D 1, p. 458fn  



“EROS, not the later god of material, physiological LOVE, but to the DIVINE
DESIRE IN THE GODS, as well as in all nature, to create and give life to
Beings. This, the Rays of the one "dark," because invisible and
incomprehensible, FLAME could achieve only by themselves descending into
matter” S D 2, P. 234 
.


“Tradition shows the celestial Yogis offering themselves as voluntary
victims in order to redeem Humanity -- created god-like and perfect at first
-- and to endow him with human affections and aspirations. To do this they
had to give up their natural status and, descending on our globe, take up
their abode on it for the whole cycle of the Mahayuga, thus exchanging their
impersonal individualities for individual personalities -- the bliss of
sidereal existence for the curse of terrestrial life. 

This voluntary sacrifice of the Fiery Angels, whose nature was Knowledge and
LOVE, was construed by the exoteric theologies into a statement that shows
"the rebel angels hurled down from heaven into the darkness of Hell" -- our
Earth. Hindu philosophy hints at the truth by teaching that the Asuras
hurled down by Siva, are only in an intermediate state in which they prepare
for higher degrees of purification and redemption from their wretched
condition; but Christian theology, claiming to be based on the rock of
divine love, charity, and justice of him it appeals to as its Saviour -- has
invented, to enforce that claim paradoxically, the dreary dogma of hell,
that Archimedean lever of Roman Catholic philosophy.”	S D 2, P. 246 


“Fohat, being one of the most, if not the most important character in
esoteric Cosmogony, should be minutely described. As in the oldest Grecian
Cosmogony, differing widely from the later mythology, Eros is the third
person in the primeval trinity: Chaos, Gća, Eros: answering to the
Kabalistic En-Soph (for Chaos is SPACE, P"Â<@, “void”) the Boundless ALL,
Shekinah and the Ancient of Days, or the Holy Ghost; so Fohat is one thing
in the yet unmanifested Universe and another in the phenomenal and Cosmic
World. In the latter, he is that Occult, electric, vital power, which,
under the Will of the Creative Logos, unites and brings together all forms,
giving them the first impulse which becomes in time law. But in the
unmanifested Universe, Fohat is no more this, than Eros is the later
brilliant winged Cupid, or LOVE. Fohat has naught to do with Kosmos yet,
since Kosmos is not born, and the gods still sleep in the bosom of
“Father-Mother.” He is an abstract philosophical idea. He produces nothing
yet by himself; he is simply that potential creative power in virtue of
whose action the NOUMENON of all future phenomena divides, so to speak, but
to reunite in a mystic supersensuous act, and emit the creative ray. When
the “Divine Son” breaks forth, then Fohat becomes the propelling force,the
active Power which causes the ONE to become Two and THREE—on the Cosmic
plane of manifestation. The triple One differentiates into the many, and
then Fohat is transformed into that force which brings together the
elemental atoms and makes them aggregate and combine.”	SECRET DOCTRINE I,
109



“M, is derived pictorially from “WW”, a water hieroglyph. It is the
universal matrix or the “Great Deep.” Venus, the great Mother-Virgin, issues
forth from the Sea-wave, and Cupid or Eros is her son. But Venus is the
later mythological variant of Gaia (or Gća), the Earth, which, in its higher
aspect is Nature (Prakriti), and metaphysically Aditi, and even
Mulaprakriti, the root of Prakriti or its noumenon.”	THEOSOPHICAL
GLOSSARY p.



“Hence Cupid or Love in his primitive sense is Eros, the Divine Will, or
Desire of manifesting itself through visible creation. Thence Fohat, the
prototype of Eros, becomes on Earth the great power “Life-electricity,”or
the Spirit of “Life-giving.” Let us remember the Greek Theogony and enter
into the spirit of its philosophy. We are taught by the Greeks (See “Iliad”
IV., 201, 246) that all things, gods included, owe their being to the Ocean
and his wife Tethys, the latter being Gća, the Earth or Nature. But who is
Ocean? Ocean is the immeasurable SPACE (Spirit in Chaos), which is the
Deity (see Book I.); and Tethys is not the Earth, but primordial matter in
the process of formation. In our case it is no longer Aditi-Gća who begets
Ouranos or Varuna, the chief Aditya among the seven planetary gods, but
Prakriti, materialised and localised.”
SECRET DOCTRINE II, 65


“Will is septenary in its degrees of manifestation. Emanating from the one,
eternal, abstract and purely quiescent Will (Âtmâ in Layam), it becomes
Buddhi in its Alaya state, descends lower as Mahat (Manas), and runs down
the ladder of degrees until the divine Eros becomes, in its lower, animal
manifestation, erotic desire. Will as an eternal principle is neither spirit
nor substance but everlasting ideation”	T. Glossary, p. 370
 


Even the Glossary entry on Eros is not wholly negative ---especially in its
esoteric aspect:
 
“EROS (Gr.). Hesiod makes of the god Eros the third personage of the
Hellenic primordial Trinity composed of Ouranos, Gća and Eros. It is the
personified procreative Force in nature in its abstract sense, the propeller
to “creation” and procreation. Exoterically, mythology makes of Eros the god
of lustful, animal desire, whence the term erotic; esoterically, it is
different. (See “Kâma”.)”
THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY p. 115

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-----Original Message-----
From: Etzion 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:58 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Love/emotion

There are deep mysteries in the universe that the human mind can never 
pahthom. 

It is a paradox - we use the mind, the faculty of intelect to 
overcome it. 

What I can tell, is that Love doesn't tolerate any tinge 
whatsoever of keeping any grudges whatsoever against anyone. 

Etzion

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