Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00769)

How much sarcasm!
The theory of 1.a.C is just a theory
And I wouldn't discard it. NO ONE knows the real date
So one cannot say that this is impossible
I find Mead's book quite logical
I am not saying i believe in it
But no one knows
And is something to think about
Occult history is quite different from `arqueologycal' history
And we know that `historians' are much wrong in many things.
Mead's theory wasn't based in Leadbeater, Mead didn't like leadbeater 
at all! He was the responsible for the Investigation Comittee in 1906 
to expel Leadbeater from the Society.
Just before the death of H.P.B, she made him promisse that he would 
work with primitive christianism. Mead was the private secretary of 
H.P.B, lived at the same roof as her for a long time. She trusted on 
him for he to answer HER letters. He coordinated the Esoteric Section 
for a long time under H.P.B's order. He was one of the ones who H.P.B 
trusted most
He was a friend to Karl Schmidt and was interested in historical and 
archeologycal study, his books are not based in silly clairvoyant 
researches. He was a schoolar, a true theosophist, a true pupil and 
friend of Blavatsky, not asilly visionaire. If H.P.B made him make 
that promisse, possibly is because the masters wanted to. 


"The 100BC theory has been done to death and not a single piece of
archaeological or documentary evidence has been produced to give it a
shread of support." And the other `theories' have documentary 
evidence about jesus? None! We know that even Flavius Josefus 
paragraph on Jesus is a latter fake.

The Toldoth Jeschu is accepted by many occultists. Such as Levy and 
Rb. Rashi, from the XII century, one of the most respected man in 
judaism and who had a great deal of inlfuence on the first 
knighttemplar. Hugh de Payens etc.. And maybe his studyes of the 
Talmud (nos the judaic one, but the on from babylon) was part 
responsible for these few templars to travel to Syria. 
As weknow trough Blavatsky, the druses and old gnostic schools still 
survived there.
The Toldoth Jeschu present a story totaly different from the one we 
know about Jesus... and the usual accepted Talmud is the jewish one. 
Thejews don't accept the Babylon Talmud (where the Toldoth Jeschu 
appears) and the text talks clearly of Mary as a not virgin, 
something christian would probaly don't like to show...
I don't know where did you get this information
But speculations and informations we have many... only because "Dr. 
Something" said it, we should not accept it that easily.
We are acquainted with various historical mistakes... The archeologys 
talk about a region in the noth of pakistan as the place of the 
unkown tribes of something, and the mahatma K.H attests us in one of 
his letters that they ignore that there is no tribe there.
One thing is occult history... other is scholars especulations...
They should work together, but not always they do.
And as NO ONE KNOWS... all this dissussion is fruitless


"And in the whole book nothing is founded of any speculation in the
lower affaires .
This a wonderful and GREAT and REAL, HOLY diary of Geoffrey Hodson."
Totaly agree Christina.

It isinteresting that you cited the Back to Blavatsky movement, I was 
thinking about it

Alaya


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, gregory <gregory@z...> wrote:
> The fantasies are running strong!
> 
> Hodson was a General or something high in the British Army and 
lived on a 
> pension. Right. Shame about the (unpublished) biography of Hodson 
(by one 
> of his disciples): John Robertson "Aquarian Occultist" (1971) which 
fails 
> to mention this exalted status and indicates that Hodson worked 
during 
> World War I for the YMCA. I'm not sure about YMCA pensions - 
perhaps they 
> are even better than those of British Generals?
> 
> Hodson is confirmed by Mead in his silly theory that Jesus lived 
100BC? 
> Well, this misses the point that Mead's theory was based on 
Leadbeater's 
> claivoyant visions. Thus Leadbeater confirms Mead who is confirmed 
by 
> Leadbeater who confirms Hodson who is confirmed by Mead.
> 
> The 100BC theory has been done to death and not a single piece of 
> archaeological or documentary evidence has been produced to give it 
a 
> shread of support. The approximate date of the life and death of 
Jesus 
> has been subjected to endless scholarly investigation. Even 
militantly 
> un- or anti-Christian scholars do not now dispute the accepted 
dates, 
> given a year or two. The "scholarly source" on which Mead places 
such 
> emphasis (since he avoids mentioning clairvoyance or Leadbeater) is 
the 
> "Toldoth Jeschu" - known and accepted to be a ninth century forgery 
by 
> both Christian and Jewish scholars.
> 
> Apologists for the 100BC theory (I have a massive unpublished 
manuscript 
> by G.N. Drinkwater struggling to sustain the illusion) have yet to 
> provide a single item of contemporary Biblical scholarship to 
support 
> them.
> 
> I'm still interested to know how Hodson could "see" the Cottingly 
fairies 
> which were a fraud. Perhaps there were real fairieis standing 
behind the 
> paper cutouts?
> 
> I'll leave it to someone from the LCC to offer an explanation for 
> Hodson's departure from the ranks of the active clergy.
> 
> Dr Gregory Tillett