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Re: Krishnamurti and materialism

Feb 19, 2005 12:53 PM
by christinaleestemaker


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" 
<christinaleestemaker@y...> wrote:
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" wrote:
> > 
> > > I think All is working through the brain.
> > > Only the ways to the brain are different, o you call the higher 
> > > mind the mind-brain entlightenend with the working Ajna(6 st 
> sense) 
> > chakra and the seventh chakra(sahasrara)making together the 
higher level.
> > 
> > > And I am sure Krisnamurti would have know that.
> > 
> > He might have HEARD that but probably he didn't KNEW.    


Chr::What do you know about that? Nothing I can see!!!



> > For instance, he probably heard about life after death, but the 
> fact 

Chr:Life after death has nothing to do with this!In this context.

Even I don't want to see him as a "world teacher" !
Everybody can be a world teacher and for sure there have been more 
persons with the same story.So Krisna did not see himself in that way.
He did not want to be a maittreya.
It is the ART to be the maittreya of yourself!!!
B.W Christina


> > that he was so distressed by the death of his brother proves that 
> he 
> > had only theoretical knowledge, if he had any. Maybe those 
> > pumpkin-heads which were around him in "Order of the star" didn't 
> > guess that they could show to the "World teacher" one of those 
> > booklets like "To those who mourn" which were kept in tons in 
> > theosophical bookstores then. Whatever he have taught, he was 
> > materialistic inside, even then. Some think that he taught 
vedanta 
> or 
> > so-called monism. Well, if one believes in one matter and nothing 
> > beyong it, he may call it "monism", because only one element is 
> > admitted, but it is no other than gross materialism. And it 
wasn't 
> > advaita-vedanta neither.
> > «Human beings, out of their fear, invented god. And they tried to 
> > reach god, which is the ultimate principle, in India it is called 
> > Brahman, the ultimate principle». (Krishnamurti on meditation)
> > http://www.krishnamurtiaustralia.org/articles/meditation%201.htm
> > He obviously saw no distinction between brahman and god, so he 
not 
> > only didn't taught vedanta, but probably didn't know anything 
about 
> > it.
> > In later period he says more openly in favour of materialism:
> > 
> > «Thought is mechanical, as is the organism». (Krishnamurti on 
> > meditation)
> > 
> > David Bohm writes:
> > «Through close attention to and observation of this activity of 
> > thought, Krishnamurti feels that he directly perceives that 
thought 
> is 
> > a material process, which is going on inside of the human being 
in 
> the 
> > brain and nervous system as a whole».
> > (A Brief Introduction to the Work of Krishnamurti)
> > http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/K/K1.html#BohmIntro2K
> > 
> > So both me and Bohm have understood Krishnamurti the same way, 
and 
> the 
> > russian translations from which I have read that brain creates 
> thought 
> > were probably correct. Though Bohm is a scientist, in his 
> > conversations with Krishnamurti he is comparatively less 
> materialistic 
> > and shows himself rather as an occultist while Krishnamurti 
rather 
> as 
> > a materialist.






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