Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00387)

Hi Sufi
I am confused, especially on being right. I dont know what form you are referring to. My posting was relating ES Societies and I wrongly assumed that ULT was a new version of this.
Cass

"M. Sufilight" <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:

Hallo all,

My views are:

Well maybe you are right Cass.
But, I wondered what purpose it will have to sign the below mentioned FORM -
since the organisational structure is amorphous - ie. without form ?
Maybe Dallas would care to give an answer to that.


from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cass Silva" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: theosophy & politics


>
> Sorry, I thought the ULT was the latest version of the ES society. Wrong 
> assumption, again, apologies. I suppose the only "down side" is that the 
> members could unwittingly begin to think that they are more advanced or 
> knowledgeable. Which I guess is a test in spiritual pride.
> Cass
>
> "W.Dallas TenBroeck" wrote:
>
> Feb 14 2005
>
>
> Dear Cass and Chris:
>
> I enjoyed reading your comments. Allow me to offer my observation
> concerning the U L T to you, as an individual "associate" for many years:
>
>
> Its concept and operation is in no way a matter of conflict with any
> established society or body of students that study Theosophy and have
> adopted the "Three Objects" of the T S.
>
> (1.) To form the nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity without
> distinction of race, colour, or creed.
>
> (2.) To promote the study of Aryan and other Scriptures, of the World's
> religion and sciences, and to vindicate the importance of old Asiatic
> literature, namely, of the Brahmanical, Buddhist, and Zoroastrian
> philosophies.
>
> (3.) To investigate the hidden mysteries of Nature under every aspect
> possible, and the psychic and spiritual powers latent in man especially.
> These are, broadly stated, the three chief objects of the Theosophical
> Society.
> Key p. 39
>
> The U L T It is an association of independent students. It has no
> "official structure." We might call it amorphous.
>
> The only document concerning its existence, work, and activities is this:
>
>
>
> UNITED LODGE OF THEOSOPHISTS
>
> DECLARATION:
>
> The policy of this Lodge is independent devotion to the cause of 
> Theosophy,
> without professing attachment to any Theosophical organization. It is 
> loyal
> to the great Founders of the Theosophical Movement, but does not concern
> itself with dissensions or differences of individual opinion.
>
> The work it has on hand and the end it keeps in view are too absorbing and
> too lofty to leave it the time or inclination to take part in side issues.
> That work and that end is the dissemination of the Fundamental Principles 
> of
> the Philosophy of Theosophy, and the exemplification in practice of those
> principles, through a truer realization of the SELF; a profounder 
> conviction
> of Universal Brotherhood.
>
> It holds that the unassailable basis for union among Theosophists, 
> wherever
> and however situated, is "similarity of aim, purpose and teaching," and
> therefore has neither Constitution, By-Laws nor Officers, the sole bond
> between its Associates being that basis. And it aims to disseminate this
> idea among Theosophists in the furtherance of Unity.
>
> It regards as Theosophists all who are engaged in the true service of
> Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, condition or
> organization, and
>
> It welcomes to its Association all those who are in accord with its 
> declared
> purposes and who desire to fit themselves, by study and otherwise, to be 
> the
> better able to help and teach others.
>
> "The true Theosophist belongs to no cult or sect, yet belongs to each and
> all."
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> The following is the form signed by Associates of the United Lodge
> of Theosophists:
>
> Being in sympathy with the purposes of this Lodge, as set forth in its
> "Declaration," I hereby record my desire to be enrolled as an Associate, 
> it
> being understood that such association calls for no obligation on my part,
> other than that which 1, myself, determine.
>
> ================================
>
> The "sole bond" is the study of THEOSOPHY and its promulgation.
>
> For that reason, it emphasizes the "Original Teachings of THEOSOPHY."
> It strives to keep these available for current reference and use.
>
> It includes all who adopt this as their objective. Its basis for work is
> cooperative and voluntary. It seeks to offer facts and not opinions.
>
> It sets up no restrictions and it asks no questions of anyone. It does
> exclude any politics, as it has no power or position to offer to anyone.
>
> I have observed that many of its associates are also members of active
> Theosophical bodies.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dallas
>
>
> =====================================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cass
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 4:40 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: theosophy & politics
>
>
> Dear Chris
>
> I am not political, nor have been on any Board of the TS. But as a lay
> person, and a person who has been reading theosophy for many years, it 
> seems
> to me that the setting up of any Board, or an ES or ULT Society, will 
> always
> involve a "them" and "us" attitude, regardless of whether or not the 
> motives
> are pure.
>
> As a society of like minds, then there should be nothing, financial or
> personal, involved in the running of the TS that cannot be shared with
> others of that society. Personal issues should be left to deal with on a
> personal basis. If people's personal issues are getting in the way of
> their spirit of Theosophy then they are not ready to help others.
>
> Why not post your Agenda and your Minutes of every meeting? Thereby
> avoiding, "gaps of information" or "behind the scenes" actions. Theosophy,
> as a non secular institution, should not have any gaps or behind the 
> scenes.
> The ES society may have been started for reasons which imply that certain
> personages were chosen to learn more, in order for them to pass on this
> knowledge to others, who were incapable of understanding the complex ideas
> behind the teaching given 100 years ago. This is not the case now. Or is
> it? Are there still some personages within the TS (Global) who believe 
> they
> "are further advanced" or "they know more"? If in fact there are some who
> are further advanced, then surely their duty is to pass on this knowledge,
> too all. To keep it for "the chosen" will be regarded (by the unchosen) as
> selfishly protecting their place in a heirarchichal system rather than one
> who has been around a few more corners and because of this can present to
> the world the secret doctrines and not to keep them for themselves?
>
> If the mission of keeping theosophy alive then motive should be love and 
> not
> reward or sacrifice. Although I am sure you didn't mean it in that 
> context.
> Perhaps a Sacrifice of Love, but the way I see it as a lay member, and a
> networker, that the many hours I spend discussing Theosophy is something I
> look forward to and I am eager to share my limited knowledge with those 
> who
> feel I have something to share.
>
> Theosophy is in your hands, it's future, is in your hands, if there is
> nothing to hide, how about open board meetings (where all are invited to
> attend?), open Agendas, open Minutes. An institution that has no secrets,
> financial or otherwise, no political or power agenda, but an open forum
> where the first principles of theosophy can be lived. Now that would be a
> first!
>
> Cass
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