Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00170)

Dear Etzion


They (the gods) would not allow man to become "one of us" - perfect (created from the first divine breath (the Dhyan Chohans?)- parentless - So they created us as imperfections of themselves (having only the first, pale shadowy outlines of attributes, and these all perfect) - from the human standpoint, but not from the gods standpoint. 



The first humanity, therefore, was a pale copy of it's projenitors, too material (although more ethereal than now) Men were not perfect enough, the gods of the holy youths were created from the first divine breath, the Dhyan Chohans?)higher gods, man on the other hand was created by cloning, the form from the Lunar Pitris and the mind from the Solar Pitris. We are negative in that our progenitors were of the first divine breath - white pure and cold as the virgin snow(the Dhyan Chohans). To be in negative perfection (by this I think she means the potential to be perfect, depending on the personal exertion of the individual. I think what I am trying to say is that we are not a direct descendant of the first divine breath, but a creation from a creation, and as such are a copy of an original, but not an original.



Cass



My understanding of this stanza is in relation to the first cause of sin
"The holy youths (the gods) (some of the Kumaras)refused to multiply and create species after their likeness, after their kind. They are not fit forms (rupas) for us. They have to grow. They refuse to enter the chhayas (shadows or images) (bhutas) of their inferiors. Thus had selfish feeling prevailed from the beginning, even among the gods, and they fell under the eye of the Karmic Lipikas. Page 192 Vol.1

(b) "the cause which could but create bad results had been generated, and that the effects of a Karmic cause could lead the "Beings" that counteracted the laws of Nature, and thus impeded her legitimate progress, only to bad incarnations, hence to suffering.
(c) ""There were many wars" refers to several struggles of adjustment, spiritual, cosmical and astronomical, but chiefly to the mystery of man as he is now. Powers - pure Essences - "that were told to create"....."Satan and his rebellious host would thus prove, when the meaning of the allegory is explained, to have refused to create physical man, only to become the direct Saviours and the Creators of "divine Man." I take it from this that the Kumaras who refused to enter the chhayas because of their pride, have by karmic determination become the defacto saviours and creators of divine man. However I think this also marked a change in their spiritual evolution in that HPB says, "For instead of remaining a mere blind, functioning medium, impelled and guided by fathomless LAW, the "rebellious" Angel claimed and enforced his right of independent judgement and will, his right of free agency and responsibility, since man and angel are alike under Karmic Law*.
And from the foot note it seems as though "According to the symbolical teaching, Spirit, from being simply a functionary agent of God, became volitional in its developed and developing action; and substituting ITS OWN WILL for the DIVINE DESIRE it its regard, SO FELL. Hence the Kingdom and reign of Spirits and spiritual action, which flow from and are the product of Spirit-volition, are outside, and contrasted with, and in contradiction to the Kingdom of Souls and Divine action. A FALL, however, from the natural into the supernatural and the animal - supernatural meaning the purely spiritual in this case - means what we suggest.
They disobeyed Divine Law by halting the progression of evolution and now have to deal with this Karma.

What I don't understand is why we should have to go through the suffering when it was the Gods that refused to incarnate into the Kingdom of Souls (humanity). According to Chapter II it is because

The holy youths were free from the Sin of Ignorance, hence of death. They were evolved to the stage that they had conquered the wheel of life and death, rebirth, and as such had conquered death. 
This shows that not all men became incarnations of the "divine Rebels," but only a few among them. The remainder had their fifth principle simply quickened by the spark thrown into it, which accounts for the great difference between the intellectual capacities of men and races. The cyclic pilgrimage would have to be performed through all the planes of existence half unconsciously, if not entirely so, as in the case of the animals. It is owing to this rebellion of intellectual life against the morbid inactivity of pure spirit, that we are what we are - self conscious, thinking men, with the capabilities and attributes of Gods in us, for good as much as for evil. Hence the REBELS are our savious.....It is only by the attractive force of the contrasts that the two opposites - Spirit and Matter - can be cemented on Earth, and smelted in the fire of self-conscious experience and suffering, find themselves wedded in Eternity. 

The supposed "rebels" then, were simply those who, compelled by Karmic law to drink the cup of gall to its last bitter drop, had to incarnate anew, and thus make responsible thinking entitite of the astral statues projected by their inferior brethren (The Lunar Pitris - provided the form). Some are said to have refused, because they had not in them the requisite materials, i.e. an astral body, since they were arupa. The refusal of others had reference to their having been Adepts and Yogis of long past preceding Manvantaras; another mystery. But later on as Nirmanakayas, they sacrificed themselves for the good and salvation of the Monads whih were waiting for their turn, and which otherwise would hve had to linger for countless ages in irresponsible, animal-like, though in apearance human, forms.

Those Angels who, in the exoteric legends, obeyed the law - they must be identical with the Barhishad Pitris, or the Pitar-Devata, ie those possessed of the physical creative fire. They could only create, or rather clothe, the human Monads with their own astral Selves, but they could not make man in their image and likeness. "Man must not be like one of us," say the creative gods, entrusted with the fabrication of the lower animal but higher. Their creating the semblance of men out of their own divine Essence means, esoterically, that it is they who became the first Race, and thus shared its destiny and further evolution. They would not, simply because they could not, give to man that sacred spark which burns and expands into the flower of human reason and self-consciousness, for they had it not to give.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Etzion Becker 
To: study@blavatsky.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: [bn-study] SD STANZA IV.



I'll appreciate if one of you will offer a few more words in order to explain further the lines I marked with red: too material, even in its ethereality, to be a hierarchy of gods; too spiritual and pure to be MEN, endowed as it is with every negative (Nirguna) perfection 

Even below there is some explantion, as if perfection has to come out of imperfection, etc, your additional view-points are always helpful. Etzion





[[Vol. 2, Page]] 86 THE SECRET DOCTRINE.
STANZA IV.
CREATION OF THE FIRST RACES


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............... Each class of Creators endows man with what it has to give: the one builds his external form; the other gives him its essence, which later on becomes the Human Higher Self owing to the personal exertion of the individual; but they could not make men as they were themselves -- perfect, because sinless; sinless, because having only the first, pale shadowy outlines of attributes, and these all perfect -- from the human standpoint -- white, pure and cold as the virgin snow. Where there is no struggle, there is no merit. Humanity, "of the Earth earthy," was not destined to be created by the angels of the first divine Breath: therefore they are said to have refused to do so, and man had to be formed by more material creators,* who, in their turn, could give only what they had in their own natures, and no more. Subservient to eternal law, the pure gods could only project out of themselves shadowy men, a little less ethereal and spiritual, less divine and perfect than
themselves -- shadows still. The first humanity, therefore, was a pale copy of its progenitors; too material, even in its ethereality, to be a hierarchy of gods; too spiritual and pure to be MEN, endowed as it is with every negative (Nirguna) perfection. Perfection, to be fully such, must be born out of imperfection, the incorruptible must grow out of the corruptible, having the latter as its vehicle and basis and contrast. Absolute light is absolute darkness, and vice versa. In fact, there is neither light nor darkness in the realms of truth. Good and Evil are twins, the progeny of Space and Time, under the sway of Maya. Separate them, by cutting off one from the other, and they will both die. Neither exists per se, since each has to be generated and created out of the other, in order to come into being; both must be known and appreciated before becoming objects of perception, hence, in mortal mind, they must be divided. 

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