Hi Cass,Bart & Sufilight,
I think it was Pope "Innocent" that said something like 'this myth of
Christ has served us well'
Here's an interesting article by David Pratt.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/jesus.htm
"H.P. Blavatsky stated that the story of Jesus was invented after
the 1st century. Jesus, she says,
is a deified personification of the glorified type of the great
Hierophants of the Temples, and his story, as told in the New
Testament, is an allegory, assuredly containing profound esoteric
truths, but still an allegory. . . . Every act of the Jesus of the
New Testament, every word attributed to him, every event related of
him during the three years of the mission he is said to have
accomplished, rests on the programme of the Cycle of Initiation, a
cycle founded on the Precession of the Equinoxes and the Signs of the
Zodiac. [3]"
Perry
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@y...> wrote:
Dear Perry
Do you believe that Jesus the man was a fabrication by the founding
members of Christianity to validate its teachings, in other words, no
teacher, no new teachings? This is now running parallel with HPB and
the masters?
Cass
Perry Coles <perrycoles@y...> wrote:
Hi Cass,
I personally have my doubts that Jesus the man even existed most of
the events in his life seem to be the retelling of old mythical
stories.
As to him being the vehicle for Maitreya for 3 years personally I
don't believe it.
I can accept the idea of Avatars in principle but am weary of
accepting any pat statements on this the way CWL, Annie Besant and
Alice Bailey were prone to make on these areas including rays and
initiations ect.
Academia is really shattering a lot of the past presumptions
concerning early Christianity now especially after the finding of
the
Dead Sea scrolls but I find all the theories are interesting and who
knows maybe `Jesus' did exist but in the end really I don't know.
HPB had many things to say about Jesus and Paul but she may have
been
wrong as well.
Its interesting though how a lot of her comments on early
Christianity
seem to be backed up by the modern findings at least as far as I can
see at this stage.
Isis Unveiled v.II is very interesting to have a read of this
subject.
Cheers
Perry
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva wrote:
> Dear Perry
> My understanding of the Lord Maitreya is that it is pure spirit,
and
only incarnates for a few years in a body. The body of Jesus was
used
(his spiritual faculties held in abeyance) by Maitreya for 3 years,
from Jesus' age of 30 to 33. These years were used by Maitreya to
bring a new understanding of religion to mankind. I believe CWL and
AB
believed that Krishnamurti would be the body that Maitreya would
use,
hence the need for purity at all levels. So I do not see how the
Lord
Maitreya would have been available to edit something as trivial as
this. Maitreya has taken the 7th initiation and is line with a Manu
of a new race. My teachings say
> Silent Watcher 10th initiation
> Lord of the World 9th initiation
> Pratyeka Buddah 8th initiation
> Manu 7th initiation
> Chohan 6th initiation
>
> I personally have problems with the Masters editing anything at a
physical level. Why do this when they can source the information
directly from the mind? My gut instinct tells me that some
theosophists chose to namedrop the Masters to validate the new
teachings.
>
> I also have problems with the Masters, sending letters to students
to advise them that they have been accepted as a disciple or a
Chela's
of a certain Master. My belief is that when the student is ready the
Master is there, and that instruction can be given when we are out
of
our bodies, e.g. in sleep. The necessity to be in their presence is
only required when the pupil has acquired a certain level on the
path.
>
> Some theosophists have made of the Masters, super-human men. The
Masters have spiritual work to do in the world and I cannot see why
they would spend their time writing to their disciples. HPB was
insistent that her teachings came from a higher source than herself,
and in order to validate this, reference to them was necessary, but
that the masters would spend the last 100 years appearing and
channelling their teachings through others, to me, is absurd.
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> "Therefore I took the typewritten copy which I had made to the
Master
> Kuthumi and asked Him to be so kind as to read it over. He read
it,
> altered a word or two here and there, added some connecting and
> explanatory notes and a few other sentences which I remembered
having
> heard Him speak to Mr. Krishnamurti. Then He said: "Yes, that
seems
> correct; that will do" ; but He added : "let us show it to the
Lord
> Maitreya." And so we went together,"
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> Masters & the Path p.175
>
> Notice how the Master read over & "CORRECTED" this manuscript and
then
> showed it to the "Lord Maitreya" as well.
>
> Why would the Mahatma's not have pointed out to Leadbeater(whom he
> claims to be in such close personal contact with) that the
teachings
> he was puting in his textbooks and manuals as being the teachings
of
> the Adept Brotherhood actually didn't match with their own?
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