Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt01082)

Hi Cass,
I personally have my doubts that Jesus the man even existed most of
the events in his life seem to be the retelling of old mythical stories.

As to him being the vehicle for Maitreya for 3 years personally I
don't believe it.
I can accept the idea of Avatars in principle but am weary of
accepting any pat statements on this the way CWL, Annie Besant and
Alice Bailey were prone to make on these areas including rays and
initiations ect.

Academia is really shattering a lot of the past presumptions
concerning early Christianity now especially after the finding of the
Dead Sea scrolls but I find all the theories are interesting and who
knows maybe `Jesus' did exist but in the end really I don't know.

HPB had many things to say about Jesus and Paul but she may have been
wrong as well.

Its interesting though how a lot of her comments on early Christianity
seem to be backed up by the modern findings at least as far as I can
see at this stage.
Isis Unveiled v.II is very interesting to have a read of this subject.

Cheers
Perry


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@y...> wrote:
> Dear Perry
> My understanding of the Lord Maitreya is that it is pure spirit, and
only incarnates for a few years in a body. The body of Jesus was used
(his spiritual faculties held in abeyance) by Maitreya for 3 years,
from Jesus' age of 30 to 33. These years were used by Maitreya to
bring a new understanding of religion to mankind. I believe CWL and AB
believed that Krishnamurti would be the body that Maitreya would use,
hence the need for purity at all levels. So I do not see how the Lord
Maitreya would have been available to edit something as trivial as
this. Maitreya has taken the 7th initiation and is line with a Manu
of a new race. My teachings say 
> Silent Watcher 10th initiation
> Lord of the World 9th initiation
> Pratyeka Buddah 8th initiation
> Manu 7th initiation
> Chohan 6th initiation
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> I personally have problems with the Masters editing anything at a
physical level. Why do this when they can source the information
directly from the mind? My gut instinct tells me that some
theosophists chose to namedrop the Masters to validate the new teachings.
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> I also have problems with the Masters, sending letters to students
to advise them that they have been accepted as a disciple or a Chela's
of a certain Master. My belief is that when the student is ready the
Master is there, and that instruction can be given when we are out of
our bodies, e.g. in sleep. The necessity to be in their presence is
only required when the pupil has acquired a certain level on the path.
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> Some theosophists have made of the Masters, super-human men. The
Masters have spiritual work to do in the world and I cannot see why
they would spend their time writing to their disciples. HPB was
insistent that her teachings came from a higher source than herself,
and in order to validate this, reference to them was necessary, but
that the masters would spend the last 100 years appearing and
channelling their teachings through others, to me, is absurd.
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> Cass
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> Perry Coles <perrycoles@y...> wrote:
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> "Therefore I took the typewritten copy which I had made to the Master
> Kuthumi and asked Him to be so kind as to read it over. He read it,
> altered a word or two here and there, added some connecting and
> explanatory notes and a few other sentences which I remembered having
> heard Him speak to Mr. Krishnamurti. Then He said: "Yes, that seems
> correct; that will do" ; but He added : "let us show it to the Lord
> Maitreya." And so we went together,"
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> Masters & the Path p.175
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> Notice how the Master read over & "CORRECTED" this manuscript and then
> showed it to the "Lord Maitreya" as well.
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> Why would the Mahatma's not have pointed out to Leadbeater(whom he
> claims to be in such close personal contact with) that the teachings
> he was puting in his textbooks and manuals as being the teachings of
> the Adept Brotherhood actually didn't match with their own?
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> Perry
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