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Re: Theos-World VITAL DIFFERENCES between the claims of Blavatsky & Leadbeater

Jan 28, 2005 08:37 AM
by Mauri




Daniel H. Caldwell wrote, in part (to Pedro):

Pedro,

I have collated BELOW several statements from some
of your recent postings on Leadbeater.

If what you say is correct then I think there is
at least one VITAL difference or distinction between what
Blavatsky claimed she was doing and what Leadbeater claimed he was doing.

What you write about Leadbeater appears to be a totally different
kind of claim.

Daniel
I think Daniel makes some relevant points in the sense that, as I see it, the study of Theosophy hinges on a kind of karmic readiness to understand or intuit wisdom in various statements/concepts that, being exoteric, could easily mislead those who are "not ready" to read between the lines. As a result, as I tend to see it, there are plenty of teachers or would-be-teachers who might or might not offer much in the way of wisdom, depending on how they're interpreted.
Not having read any of Leadbeater's books, I can't say much other than that I tend to get the impression that I might find myself having to do a lot of sifting and sprinkling of salt while reading his books (ie, in contrast to such as, eg, the Mahatma Letters, which have so far tended to come across to me kind of ... well, sort of as if certain kinds of sifting/salt wasn't required all that much---strangely enough, seeing as I seem to think of myself as a sort of "speculator extraodinaire," in a way---in comparison to so many other things I have read).

Here's something that might (or might not ...) be found to relate to this topic in some worthwhile-enough sense, maybe:

Quoting Ken Wilbur, page 57, THE ESSENTIAL KEN WILBUR:

<<Arthur Koestler coined the term holon to refer to that which, being a whole in one context, is simultaneously a part in another. With reference to the phrase "the bark of a dog," for example, the word bark is a whole with reference to its individual letters, but a part with reference to the phrase itself. And the whole (or the context) can determine the meaning and function of a part---the meanining of bark is different in the phrases "the bark of a dog" and "the bark of a tree." The whole, in other words, is more than the sum of its parts, and that whole can influence and determine, in many cases, the function of its parts (and that whole is, of course, simultaneously a part of some other whole).

Normal hierarchy, then, is simply an order of increasing holons, representing an increase in wholeness and intergrative capacity-atoms to molecules to cells, for example. This is why hierarchy is indeed so central to systems theory, the theory of wholeness or holism ("wholism"), To be a part of a larger whole means that the whole supplies a principle (or some sort of glue) not found in the isolated parts alone, and this principle allows the parts to join, to link together, to have something in common, to be connected, in ways that they simply could not be on their own.

Hierarchy, then, converts heaps into wholes, disjointed fragments into networks of mutual interaction. When is is said that "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts," the "greater" means "hierarchy." It doesn't mean fascist domination; it means a higher (or deeper) commonality that joins isolated strands into an actual web, that joins molecules into a cell, or cells into an organism.>>

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References to "brotherhood" in Theosophical lit come to mind, among other things. I wonder if Wilbur has used the word "brotherhood" in his writings in the same context/sense as used in the 19th century. Not that I can't imagine such a thing, in some sense. And maybe the word "commonality" is too dry or something for most people, anyway ...

Speculatively
Mauri







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