Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00511)

Dear Leon
How's things with you, see you are a bit frustrated over CWL. Dialogue is good for the soul.
I have sent mine in CAPS>
Cass
leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:



In a message dated 01/14/05 4:00:27 PM, bartl@sprynet.com writes:

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>leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
>> What's the point of such inane assertions? 
>> Are you absolutely sure you know what you are talking about? 
>> There are many absolutes... According to the American Heritage dictionery;
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> And how many monads are there?
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> Bart

Just as many, absolutely -- as we can imagine... Since the Universe (and 
whatever came out of its origin in the zero-point of absolutely infinite 
potential) is infinitely divisible. Isn't it?

LEON, FORGIVE THE STUPIDITY BUT IF IT IS INFINITELY DIVISIBLE ISN'T IT NEVERENDING?


Wanna continue playing these games? :-) Chew on this...

How many absolute infinities or infinite sets are there if we infinitely 
divide infinity or an infinite set of infinities? (Ref: Cantor)

INFINITI AB INFINITUM

How many absolute cardinal or ordinal numbers are there between absolute zero 
and absolute infinity?

ABSOLUTE ZERO (IS THE ZERO ABSOLUTE?) =ABSOLUTE INFINITY - 

IT IS BEYOND NUMBERS, TIME AND SPACE.



If Pi is an absolutely constant fractional number representing the ratio of 
the diameter to the radius of a circle (which I'm sure it is:-) -- how many 
absolute cardinal and ordinal numbers are there in the arithmetical expression of 
that ratio?

NOW ITS GETTING HARD. RATIO=PI x ABSOLUTE CARDINAL AND ORDINAL NUMBERS.

How many absolute radial angles of spin can there be around an absolute 
zero-point? 

HOW MANY CURDS ARE THERE IN PORRIDGE?

If each such spin angle has an independent zero-point center, how many 
absolute zero-points can there be in an absolute zero-point? 

IF X= ZERO POINT

THEY ALL HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTE, AND CAPABLE OF CREATING THEIR OWN UNIVERSES. INFINITY NOW HAS BOUNDARIES. BECAUSE EVERY ZERO POINT CAN CREATE ITS OWN UNIVERSE, (ABSOLUTE) AND FROM THAT WILL SEND RAYS OF ITSELF TO FORM OTHER UNIVERSES (THE ABSOLUTE HAS BECOME RELATIVE) IT'S VERY SEXUAL ISNT IT. WE JUST KEEP ON MULTIPLYING. HOW BIG IS A UNIVERSE?

PLUS

HOWEVER MANY IT TAKES UP TO MAKE AN ABSOLUTE

How many absolute zero-points can there be on a single circle of spin force 
(motion=angular momentum) of zero-diameter? 

DIDN'T DO GEOMETRY SO I WILL PASS ON THIS MAN

How many on all spin angles of such circular momentum?

DITTO

Doesn't theosophy teach that Parabrahm represents the "Absolute" out of which 
Brahma sprang -- and that there is a Paraparabrahm (another Absolute?) out of 
which Parabrahm sprang -- and so on in an endless series of Absolutes? 
Aren't each of them "The Absolute" with relation to its particular Cosmic 
creations? 


I THINK YOU AGREE WITH MY ANSWER ABOVE.



Is not each such universe and everything in it a reflection of the same monad 
that rested in its Absolute zero-point of origin? YES 

Wouldn't that make the Absolute itself (out of which this Universe sprang, 
among infinite others) a Monad that can replicate itself infinitely into or be 
descended from other series of Absolute Monads? YES

Is not that primal Monad and each of its reflected Monads an absolute reality 
-- as the necessary root of everything? YES, PLUS WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE LIVED IN THE FLESH.


(To get back to the original statement that kicked off this whole 
discussion.) Doesn't all that make it absolutely obvious that "the Absolute is relative, 
and the Relative is absolute"?

YES BUT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE ELEPHANT'S TAIL AND SEEING IT AS A MOUSE,OTHERS LOOK AT THE EARS OF A MOUSE AND SEE IT IS AN ELEPHANT.

YOU KNOW THAT THEY TEACH AT UNI THAT IF SOMETHING IS ABSOLUTE, ANYTHING, RELATIVE, WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF ITSELF AND THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE ABSOLUTE. HPB SAYS THIS TOO IN THE SD

Want more questions? 

Of course, if you have valid reason to doubt or disbelieve either Theosophy, 
metaphysical reality and its logical requisites and prerequisites, or Cantor's 
infinite set mathematics, or even Mandelbrot's fractal mathematics -- what 
more is there to say -- or ask? :-)

Leonardo

P.S. I love to argue with people who think only in linear or absolute terms, 
and can't grasp that imaginary numbers are just as real as rational or 
irrational numbers... That is, if theosophy is true. (However, I don't think you 
fall entirely in that category.) <\;-)> 

imaginary numbers are just as real as rational or irrational numbers. THAT'S A GOTCHA STATEMENT!



CASS





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