Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00451)

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Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Christianity or not...


>
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "W.Dallas TenBroeck"
> <dalval14@e...> wrote:
>
> > You ask about such an individual being disciplined or expelled. I
> would
> > suggest that that the individual's own Higher Self is attentive
and
> > attending to the matter. As to the Masters, is it not a matter
> that They
> > know how best to deal with? You will recall that with HPB's
> leaving India
> > for Europe and Britain (1885) Damodar wrote that the Masters'
> influence had
> > almost left Adyar. HPB said the same (article: WHY I DO NOT
> RETURN TO
> > India). . Of what use is it for us to try to "double-guess"
> matters out of
> > curiosity. Those may not be of our concern. Another point is, I
> recall that
> > Masters state they may not interfere with another's Karma.
>
>
> Dear Dallas:
>
> I think you were really replying to Cass' post.
>
> Just a brief comment on your statement regarding the supposed
> withdrawal of the Masters' influence from Adyar after HPB left, in
> March 1885. From several accounts of that episode, it seems HPB was
> really furious with the members of the Executive Committee at Adyar
> for not allowing her to sue the Christian missionaries and the
> Coulombs for defaming her, as they provided distorted and fraudulent
> information to Richard Hodgson, who was investigating phenomena at
> Adyar on behalf of the SPR. The reason given by the Ex. Com. members
> was that any legal action would eventually drag the names of the
> Masters to a court battle, and many Indian Chelas were absolutely
> against it. Still, as someone who had been agrieved, HPB had her
> reasons to pursue that line of action.

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DK>>---One of their concerns is that if HPB got into court, and was
put on the witness stand, and asked certain questions that she had
sworn (to the Masters) to never discuss, and refused to answer, would
she be put in jail for contempt of court. That is why they got her out
of the jurisdiction as soon as possible. She may have believed that
the reason was something different. She was "excitable" in that way,
and had many false notions of what others thought of her at times,
just as evidently HSO was. One letter from the Master to him, recieved
on a ship still exists. I am not sure what they said or wrote to her
to calm her down.
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> Many theosophical historians question the testimony recorded in
> Olcott's diaries, and it was even suggested that Leadbeater, who had
> resigned from the TS in May 1906, following accusations against him,
> and was living in Italy at that time, had astrally projected, from
> Europe, virtual images of the Masters to appear at Adyar!

DK>>>>>>---------
So, if he was capable of this, he must have been much more advanced
than popularly thought?
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Dennis