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Re: Theos-World Anand ignored this posting from me and never answered the specific points

Dec 16, 2004 09:36 PM
by Cass Silva

As these ideas were so revolutionary at the time and HPB was not a native english speaker or writer of english, language misinterpretations may have occured which were cleared up by KootHoomi. I do not believe that the truth was misinterpreted, but there arose a need for words to describe the undescribable and when this happens the words are misinterpreted but never the message. In the case of Besant and Leadbeater, who had a christian slant in their make-up perhaps they may have misunderstood or were in denial and could have (slanted) misconstrued the real meaning to their own ideals. Maybe they made the pie fit the dish rather than the dish not being able to fit the pie.

"Daniel H. Caldwell" <> wrote:

The material below I wrote to Anand more than a
month ago and I also believe I posted it on this

Anand ignored this posting from me and never
answered the specific points.

Anand, you write: "HPB admitted that she
misunderstood teaching given by the Masters."

No she didn't admit that. She wrote:

"...I MAY have misunderstood in many a point both Master and
Old. G...." She didn't consider herself infallible and she did
admit that she might be capable of making mistakes.

"I MAY have misunderstood"....does not mean that she did

And please consider what HPB wrote later:

"Now Tookaram writes me a letter. In it he says that S.R. told him he
was ready to help me and correct my S.D. provided I took out from it
every reference to the Masters! Now, what's this? Does he mean to
say that I should deny the Masters, or that I do not understand Them
and garble the facts They give me, or that he, S.R. knows Master's
doctrines better than I do?...."

But Anand, why RELY on what Subba Row may or may not have said about
the S.D. when we have the following assurances from the Master Koot

"I have also noted, your thoughts about the 'Secret Doctrine.' Be
assured that what she [HPB] has not annotated from scientific and
other works, we have given or suggested to her. Every mistake or
erroneous notion, corrected and explained by her from the works of
other theosophists was corrected by me, or under my instruction. It
is a more valuable work than its predecessor, an epitome of occult
truths that will make it a source of information and instruction for
the earnest student for long years to come. . . ." Letters from the
Masters of the Wisdom, Series I, p. 47

Anand, you seem to want to IGNORE what Master K.H. says above.

The Master says that the Secret Doctrine is "an epitome of occult
truths that will make it a source of information and instruction for
the earnest student for long years to come. . . ."

That appears to me a recommendation....and totally opposite of what
you say.

You also write:

"You asked me about mistakes of HPB. Although I can give many
references, it is very boring and time consuming task. Moreover I
expect that person should understand point quickly without my too
much explanation."

It may be as you say a very boring and time consuming task but you
need to back up with specific examples your broad sweeping
generalization if you want people to consider your statement accurate
and creditable.

Show some examples where you think HPB made mistakes ...hopefully
major mistakes in the SD.

A few....two or three or 5 of them.

HPB may have made some mistakes ..... but does that negate the worth
of the SD. Please ponder on what KH said in the quote I gave you
earlier in this letter.

Are you also trying to say that Leadbeater, for example, never made
any mistakes comparable to what you think HPB did?

I really wonder if you have carefully thought all of this through.

Show some prime examples of HPB's mistakes and furthermore why we
should rely on Leadbeater's writings over HPB's writings.


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