Theos-Talk Archives (November 2004 Message tt00013)

Nov 1 2004

Re: Jesuitism and Theosophy -- HPB contrasts

Dear M:

Dear friend -- your interpretation is (I think) inaccurate, and I think you
exaggerate that which I said.  

I said: we could LEARN from the past, study HPB's writings as the original
source for all present day Theosophical basics, and avoid repeating the
errors of many opinionated persons, who seem to be studious and learned.  

I ask myself: in what -- is it true or incorrect and false information ?  

Of course the answer will have to be obtained by every interested student
who does their own research. The basic documents are all available, and
everyone who is desirous of consistency, can trace the progress,
chronologically of every one of the series of events themselves. There are
no short-cuts. "Opinions" remain as they always do: opinions. But, most
people are in a hurry and prefer those "short-cuts" at the expense of
complete accuracy. Thereafter, they have no basis for complaining if they
made a mistake in their choice of some "authority" or another.  

If you, or anyone, wants to know what THEOSOPHY teaches, then please consult
HPB's writings.  

This is the very real value of history -- I mean TRUE HISTORY. 

She, acting as the "messenger" for the Great Mahatmas, was the real
inspirer of the modern THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT.  

Without her there would not be any THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY or any modern
THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT -- If you wish to check these statements that I make,
then, consult the 1st Vol. of Blavatsky: COLLECTED WORKS if you wish to
familiarize yourself with that aspect of our Theosophical commencing, and
thereafter, of our more recent history. 

If we fail to learn from her, then our efforts in regard to the THEOSOPHICAL
MOVEMENT may go easily astray.  

Witness the way in which today the various religions (Christianity, Judaism,
Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism and Brahmanism, the religions of China,
etc...,) and sects (which have all originated in their prime from the same
singular and original THEOSOPHY) have diverged into the present day display
of so many sectarian particulars -- of rites, rituals and beliefs. Look at
the present range (in the last 125 years) of "Theosophical menus" and
"organizations" -- you will see the same thing already at work.

Why is there such a reluctance by so many well intentioned persons to go
back to the source?  

All I can see is that some have adopted only partial views of what THEOSOPHY
offers, and when they are confronted with the full philosophy (and HPB in
her writings, always does this) they find they have to modify their
opinions. That is not always pleasant. But for the true and honest student
it is an essential. 

As a recent and present example consider what "Anand Gholap" writes and
says. To me, it is quite evident that he has not studied HPB's writings and
his opinions are therefore partial. Many have spent an inordinate amount of
time on this. Has it proved of any worth?

As to Jesuitry: it is has always been prevalent, and, perhaps under other
names, it will be found to run parallel with every true exposition of
THEOSOPHY. It is not the name that is important, but the rules and
organization of that kind of opposition. Now, one ought task why is this
so? 

If you have a copy of ISIS UNVEILED see Vol. 2, pp 348 et seq.

Best wishes, 

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: Morten
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:10 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Jesuitism and Theosophy -- HPB contrasts

Dear Dallas,

Are you then saying that we should look at the past
instead of looking at the present time we live in
and avoid relating our articles the theosophical magazines
to the present circumstances - and what happens á la Jesuitic
sorcery today?

I personally think that HPB would have stroke
if she read the various magazines which today bolsters
themselves as being theosophical.

from
M. S