Theos-Talk Archives (October 2004 Message tt00394)

In a message dated 10/14/04 11:31:28 AM, ekcvv@juno.com writes:

>
>The trouble is that whenever we look into Theosophy, the language seems
>to be akin to physical. So, without doing it consciously, we consider the
>other planes to be also physical in nature. We expect us to understand
>them in a physical way and we think that the physical laws apply.
>The fact is they do not!
>
>Gopi

We must always remember that, in spite of the separation between Spirit or 
Consciousness and Matter, ALL the manifest planes (hyperspace fields in modern 
scientific terms) are essentially "physical" in nature, i.e., they are all 
substantial, at one or another degree or phase order of frequency-energy. 
Therefore, the fundamental basis of all the physical laws are the same, although each 
field's energy, mass, frequency, and time values may differ. 

Thus the equation E=MC^2 could very well hold on each plane, provided we 
insert the value of the speed of light on that plane with reference to its 
different time constant -- thereby, resulting in different values for E and M. Since 
these values are beyond our conscious perception, they can only be determined 
through a special form of multidimensional-tensor mathematics, such as used 
in string, relativity, and quantum field theories. Also, the basic laws of 
equivalency of mass-energy along with symmetry and conservation would also hold 
analogously and correspondingly on every plane.

Although, all these higher fields vibrate at one frequency phase order or 
another, and thus act analogously and correspondingly with repect to the energies 
in our lower order (so called "physical") space-time, we cannot measure or 
see these fields -- since they (along with their waves and particles) are 
enfolded within the infinitely small Planck distance (zero-point vacuum) between the 
smallest measurable particles on our lower (metric) physical plane ( that we 
also can't see or measure, except indirectly). In fact, they are so small that 
when we observe them by directing our willful thought ray toward them, their 
conditions (of position or momentum) change. This accounts for the lower 
plane's physical laws of "indeterminacy" at those levels, i.e., if we know a 
fundamental particle's position or location we can't know its momentum or 
frequency-energy, and vice versa. 

Lenny