Theos-Talk Archives (October 2004 Message tt00234)

Leon,
Thanks for your comments although I am a little confused. It was Paul who 
spoke and posted about Hamer's Book and research on the "God gene" not me. I 
have not read the Book and know next to nothing about it's content. My primary 
interest was Gariaev DNA-wave Biocomputer research.

I agree with your perception of current Scientific mindedness which in my 
opinion is status quo across time. A situation of thought-counter thought that 
is always to be the ground of new Challenges that appear which expand, modify 
accumulations. BTW, I just read early yesterday the news that one of the 
researchers I mentioned Jacques Beneveniste, had died October 3rd. Darn! I had 
looked forward to seeing his continued findings. The Gnostics divided people into 
the three categories of materialists, psychics, and spirituals, if they 
thought correctly then the principle is found continuing even in the present. So 
what we really are experiencing in the response of some but not all Scientists 
is which general Gnostic category they are currently bound too in the context 
of mind they represent in their persona, which in terms of current Science and 
it's Disciplines has strong advocacy to reinforce the stasis. This, at least 
in my individual opinion has potential to change, even if ever so slowly.
One of the interesting origination's of Gariaev deals with Luminal and 
Supraluminal communication. When he speaks of the "Acoustic" effect he says it 
is limited to Luminal velocity and encompasses emotion. But when he mentions 
Intention, Will, that is non-acoustic and effected laser coherent emission he 
states it is Supraluminal. I wonder if the form of emotion entrained with the 
acoustic response and production is Desire? This has relation both to Prayer and 
Healing as communication process.

Yes, Sheldrake and his Morphogenic Field is another that is a contributor 
of New theory. And today it looks like many others are growing like new grass 
all over the world. Today they are vilified and have a lot on their plate, but 
I think what they postulate and even give scientific evidence of will, in due 
time cause transformation and Science will arrive at a new consciousness.
Science accepts the Uncertainty Principle and validates the problem of the 
Observer in performing "observation" can directly alter the outcome of the 
experiment due to impingement of the Observers Awareness. recently one of those 
"Maverick" researchers was the guest on a Radio show I listen too. He 
researched the Bioresponse of Plants for over 30 years. In his interview he discoursed 
on this above problem of just how much it could interfere and effect the 
outcome of experiments he was performing. after many different methods he tried to 
isolate himself from the experiments he arrived at a requisite complete 
isolation of the experiment and methods that used preprogrammed random operations 
of a very manifold kind. He found that Plants tune to and get a rapport with 
people that they are sufficiently regularly exposed to and some how have some 
kind of perception of thought images and Intention from him as well as others. 
Here is a past Interview with Cleve Backster :

The Plants Respond: Interv. Cleve Backster
http://www.derrickjensen.org/backster.html

This is interesting to me as Madame Blavatsky if I remember right described 
the Plant Kingdom as having a "nascent" form of consciousness. The research he 
did (Cleve Backster) indicates by direct recording in hard scientific form 
that there is indeed communication between both Plant and Man in the Now and a 
"bridge" exists unawares to most. Is it all a "broken" continuum between the 
Kingdoms? I don't think so anymore.

John


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