Theos-Talk Archives (October 2004 Message tt00213)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten N. Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hallo 
> 
> My views are:
> 
> I would like to emphasize my view on the email:
> This below excerpt is revealing a real event and which has taken 
place. 
> And the questioner was indeed an initiate:
> 
>> Then he replied: "It is not reading, only repeating", because he 
> knows that we read and speak in a very negligent manner."
*** 
Because it is difficult to read exactly and non coloured with the 
thinking mind of our own.
The more difficult is to read behind the sentences!!
But for all there is a growing!

from C. 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:00 PM
> Subject: Theos-World The nameless Masters by Carola Trussart
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Here they mention some more masters and they celebrate Blavatsky.
> > As we see there are many masters.
> > Now it is the great art to be the master of our one.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > THE NAMELESS MASTERS
> > 
> > by Carola Trussart.
> > 
> > [Adopted from a lecture of Master E.KRISHNAMACHARYA in Autumn 
1975, 
> > Geneva. ] 
> > 
> > The word "Master" indicates mastery in action. We find Masters on 
all 
> > levels of intelligence. Modern scientists are Masters as well. 
They 
> > are always there, but from time to time they descend to lead 
humanity 
> > into the age of science. Similarly, there are also Masters of the 
> > social laws and traditions, Masters of political laws, of the 
world 
> > and of man's organization on earth. From time to time they hold a 
key 
> > position in some government
> > 
> > Actually, there is not much importance in the names of the 
Masters. 
> > Above the Masters of every branch of science, there are the 
Masters 
> > of "Synthesis of all Wisdom". They are the true Masters working 
at 
> > the level of spiritual integration of mankind.
> > 
> > The Masters are able to deal with the human constitution and 
induce 
> > correct functioning in the apparatus of the body and the mind, so 
> > that these will be concentrated in the right way, on the higher 
> > intelligence in man. The real human being is called spirit, and 
the 
> > scientists who train people to tune their minds, intelligence, 
senses 
> > andphysical organs correctly to their spirit, are called Masters 
at a 
> > spiritual level. It is enough to know the names of some of these 
> > Masters; those whose names we know stand as examples for the 
Masters. 
> > They work in groups, and there are hundreds of them on earth. And 
> > more, they consider themselves as the elder brothers, and they 
expect 
> > all the younger brothers to gradually work out their evolution 
> > without error and without failure and to attain 
> > mastery. 
> > 
> > They expect the number of Masters to grow with each person having 
> > attained mastery. All these new Masters should be One with the 
World 
> > Masters in order to work together and guide the younger ones who 
have 
> > not yet attained mastery. Therefore, the number of masters cannot 
be 
> > estimated. In one way or another, anywhere on this earth Masters 
are 
> > guiding groups of students.
> > 
> > If anything goes dramatically wrong, this is due only to the 
> > incapacity of people to assimilate the Master's advice which is 
> > available to them on the visible or on the invisible plane. For 
the 
> > Master's work on the visible or the invisible plane is the same. 
To 
> > them physical existence is no serious obstacle. They are able to 
> > extend their influence to all the disciples.
> > 
> > Therefore the chance to receive guidance from a Master is given 
to 
> > anyone on this earth irrespective of creed, country, nationality 
or 
> > membership in a spiritual association. Therefore, any serious 
> > disturbance indicates that the person is not listening properly 
to 
> > the advice of the Masters. The Masters will definitely try to 
> > eliminate differences and magnetize the minds for the one 
experience 
> > and the one truth. But the average man has to get ready to 
assimilate 
> > their guidance and advice.
> > 
> > The Masters have no personal desire and no personal activity or 
> > program of their own, except the one activity to be the scouts of 
> > evolution. It all depends on a person's readiness to receive the 
> > advice of Masters. Advice and guidance from the Master is there 
> > anywhere and anytime, if the mind is ready to receive. While 
> > traveling, walking on the road, at home, we have the possibility 
of 
> > receiving the presence and the guidance of the Masters.
> > 
> > The Masters are present on many levels of existence, some of them 
> > work to solve the social problems of mankind, although The simple 
> > belief that the Masters are present around us creates a contact 
and a 
> > link with them. Therefore, it is neither a miracle nor a mystery, 
it 
> > is only a matter of belief, and of humility. It is enough for an 
> > ordinary man to lead an average moral life, free from any 
intention 
> > to harm others in thought or deed, to have satisfaction from 
one's 
> > work, and contentment with modest needs, a belief in the 
existence of 
> > higher beings. After a short time, there will be contact with at 
> > least one Master. The contact need not be a conscious one for the 
> > student, it starts with good thoughts in his mind. For some time, 
he 
> > may think that these good thoughts originate from himself and are 
> > his. But this does not bother the Masters. They want good 
thinking to 
> > be produced by the human mind, but they don't claim any 
authorship 
> > for or identification with good thoughts. From the very moment of 
> > contact with the Masters, our mind receives thoughts 
inconceivable 
> > before. We have to bring these thoughts to the level of daily 
> > practice, otherwise they have no impact on us.
> > 
> > Thoughts are contained in all the books of the world. While 
> > increasing our knowledge, the books are not capable of 
influencing 
> > us, as long as there is no connection between our attitude and 
our 
> > knowledge. Only when our knowledge starts to influence our 
attitude, 
> > some part of some book will become useful.
> > 
> > It is the Masters' intention to activate thoughts in human lives. 
The 
> > very moment when a disciple starts to put into practice a 
thought, a 
> > profound change occurs in him. All the values in his mind change, 
his 
> > attitude changes, his respect for others and understanding of the 
> > Masters' presence change. The Masters need not appear physically. 
> > They do so only rarely, when it is absolutely necessary.
> > 
> > Some Masters have appeared physically to Mme Blavatsky. But all 
the 
> > members of the Theosophical order knew the Masters on the higher 
> > levels only, not on the physical. Mme Blavatsky was the only one 
to 
> > receive the physical presence of the Masters, Even her famous 
> > successors knew the Masters on the mental plane only. Even A. 
Bailey 
> > knew the Tibetan Master only on higher levels. The Masters don't 
> > consider it necessary to give physical presence to the students 
> > because they don't want to influence them in any way. It is a 
queer 
> > thought that Masters should exist physically only. They eat and 
> > perform their daily duties exactly as we do in our lives, with 
one 
> > difference though: they do not reveal their identity to us. It is 
> > possible that we meet them physically, but they keep it a secret. 
> > Their mastership is different from their existence.
> > 
> > We know many Masters on the physical plane, working in the 
offices in 
> > town and traveling as businessmen. We know their names, but we 
don't 
> > know them. We know them, and we don't know their names. They keep 
a 
> > distance between their personal identity and their name. If they 
> > would reveal their identity instead of guiding us, this would 
create 
> > disturbance to them, because it is man's nature to project his 
own 
> > mental level on to others before he is capable of accepting 
anything 
> > from the Masters.
> > 
> > Suppose all of us gather around a Master and have a good 
discussion 
> > on a good topic, that means we are pulling him down to the level 
of 
> > discussion while he dwells on the level of activity. The Masters 
care 
> > only for activity, not for discussion. That is why they do not 
appear 
> > to us. In those 5-10 minutes when we engage them in a discussion, 
> > they could fulfill big things for the benefit of thousands of 
people. 
> > That is why they keep their identity secret from us. But they 
don't 
> > want to be far from us. They are among us. They know us, we don't 
> > know them. That is their life. 
> > 
> > I have some experience with a few strange and special beings who 
live 
> > their personal life without anything, i.e., they I have some 
> > experience with a few strange and special beings who live their 
> > personal life without anything, i.e., they do not wish for 
anything 
> > and they don't disclose whether they have any possessions or 
> > responsibilities, and they are in a position allowing them to be 
> > available 24 hours to work for others.
> > 
> > When I was 24, I walked along the street one night, and a young 
man 
> > of about 30 years came up to me and asked for my name and very 
> > naturally added that he would like to talk to me for some time. I 
> > invited him home. He came and we spoke for a long time in the 
night. 
> > At that time my second son was seriously ill and I attended on 
him. 
> > This man took care of the patient as well and brought some 
medicine. 
> > I do not know where from. Late at night he left and brought back 
some 
> > homeopathic medicine and treated the boy throughout the night. He 
> > watched through the night, and in the early hours the boy was 
healed. 
> > He shared the daily routine of my house, washing dishes with me, 
> > carrying water, he took coffee and breakfast with me. During the 
> > night I asked about him, and he had given me a visiting card.
> > 
> > Later he was seen in Bombay walking and distributing medicine the 
> > whole day.
> > 
> > Thousands of people in Bombay know him, but no one knows his name 
or 
> > anything about him. Everyone knows his address, that is a tiny 
room, 
> > but no one knows whether he has a wife or children, whether he 
works 
> > somewhere and how he gets clothing and food. He has never asked 
for 
> > anything from anyone. If we offer some food, he eats it. He likes 
to 
> > live with us for one day or half day. And in that day, he will 
heal 
> > all the people in the house, if we are ready to reveal any of our 
> > problems to him. If we break our limitations, he is ready to 
solve 
> > our problems.
> > 
> > But he says, only 2-3% of the people can really benefit from him, 
> > because most people are not ready to reveal their problems to 
others. 
> > They prefer to suffer secretly with their weak points instead of 
> > giving up their vanity and revealing their secrets to others. But 
he 
> > definitely wants to go to their houses.
> > 
> > After one year, he finds people more courageous to disclose their 
> > secrets and speak freely to him. He says that some people would 
> > follow his advice after three years and live without any secret 
in 
> > their lives. He visited me many times, and still I don't know how 
he 
> > lives, what his profession is, what he would like, and whether he 
has 
> > a family.
> > 
> > He visits my house once in six or ten months. It is many hundreds 
of 
> > miles from Bombay to my place, and I know that many people know 
him 
> > in Bangalore. Bangalore is hundreds of miles distant from my 
place as 
> > well. In India, the distance from one place to another is many 
> > hundreds of miles. Still, many people in different towns know him 
> > personally, and no one knows, which place he belongs to, no one 
> > remembers that they have ever given him any money, or that he had 
> > asked for anything.
> > 
> > One day I started to speak about Pythagoras and his science, and 
he 
> > gave me wonderful information on the science of Pythagoras, his 
> > higher mathematics, the school of the rituals he had installed 
and 
> > the 33 volumes of his writings. He promised to bring the volumes 
and 
> > lend them for my study. And as promised, he gave me the 33 
volumes of 
> > Pythagoras, and after I had copied notes from them, I gave them 
back 
> > to him. Similarly, I asked him about Master St. Germain. Within 2 
> > hours he brought a manuscript with the title "The Holy 
Trinosophy".
> > 
> > There is a published book with the title "Trinosophy", and a 
second 
> > volume which is not published. He showed me both, the published 
one 
> > and the unpublished one and allowed me to copy from both. We 
> > discussed it, the knowledge it contained, the symbolism of the 
> > pictures in the book and the symbolism of each single point in 
the 
> > pictures. Any topic I would touch, he brought the books and 
allowed 
> > me to copy whatever I wanted to.
> > 
> > After some time I asked him where his library was. He said: "The 
> > library is not personal, but there is a place on earth for this 
> > library. Whenever we want a book, published or unpublished, we 
> > receive it. We are allowed to use it and give it back". He has 
> > provided many privileges for the library and made me its member. 
I 
> > learnt a lot about ancient medicine from him.
> > 
> > I learnt from him about the works of Paracelsus and Hippocrates, 
and 
> > about the ancient astro-medicine and the link between astrology 
and 
> > anatomy. I could discuss many things with him. He is very simple 
in 
> > his clothing and conduct. He speaks simple English. Although we 
speak 
> > about anything, he only speaks about the difficulties and wishes 
of 
> > others and gives his advice. He never speaks about spirituality 
and 
> > philosophy if not asked.
> > 
> > If anyone asks about God, he says, it is terrible to utter the 
name 
> > of God, for as soon as we start to utter his name, we stop 
following 
> > him. One day he made a special remark: "We should utter the name 
of 
> > God only in the form of work, not in the form of word. The more 
we 
> > speak about God, the more we cheat the world." That is what he 
said.
> > 
> > Then I wanted to remember the words of Buddha. He said in one 
> > conversation: "It is idle to ask whether God is present or not, 
but 
> > it is necessary to follow the indicated path." For this statement 
> > Buddha has been regarded as an atheist. Buddha says, "It is idle 
to 
> > discuss God, because if we have our responsibilities towards 
mankind, 
> > where is the necessity to discuss God?"
> > 
> > This gentleman said something similar. I have a contact usually 
once 
> > in a year or once in eight or nine months with this strange man. 
I am 
> > not so stupid to discuss whether someone is a Master or not, but 
I am 
> > ready to call him a Master, and I believe he is a Master ever 
since 
> > the day I met him. I have seen many people discuss, whether some 
one 
> > is a Master or half of a Master or no master at all, but they 
only 
> > waste their time without attending to their work. Therefore, I 
made 
> > it a rule to regard certain unknown people as Masters, and he is 
one 
> > of them.
> > 
> > I have met another person. Late one evening, I was alone in my 
house, 
> > because my wife and children had gone to my in-laws home. I had 
read 
> > the Secret Doctrine from morning till night, and forgot about 
going 
> > out to take food in a restaurant. Late at night, after 12.30 I 
felt 
> > hungry and I went out. In our place, some hotels are open the 
whole 
> > night for crazy people like me. I went there, ate something and 
came 
> > back.
> > 
> > Accidentally, I met an old man with a beard and a clean though 
> > unironned shirt. It was not neat, but clean, and it had an ink 
stain 
> > at the pocket. He went along the road and for some time walked 
with 
> > me. I thought he might be a beggar (there are many beggars on the 
> > roads in India). He looked at me and smiled. I did not smile, 
because 
> > I thought he was a bit crazy. At the same time I doubted this, 
> > because his eyes had a very pure expression. The eyes had a 
bright 
> > look. It was very dark, and no one was on the road.
> > 
> > Then he asked immediately: "So you are reading the Secret 
Doctrine?" 
> > It was like an electric shock. I could not answer. After a few 
> > seconds he repeated the same question and I replied: "I try to 
read 
> > it, Sir". Then I understood something about this person and I 
thought 
> > he was an impersonal being, who is there to help others. Then he 
said 
> > (without any question on my part): "Begin the book from this 
page, 
> > the title `the Holy of Holies'. When you have read this chapter, 
> > start reading the book. You will understand exactly what it 
conveys." 
> > He also said: "You read the Bhagavad Gita". I answered that I had 
> > read it many times.
> > 
> > Then he replied: "It is not reading, only repeating", because he 
> > knows that we read and speak in a very negligent manner.
> > 
> > For Masters, however, Reading and Speaking are not trivial. For 
them 
> > their meaning in life is different from our meaning in life. For 
them 
> > the significance of speech is very different from the 
significance of 
> > speech for us. We walked a few more yards, then he said "Good 
night" 
> > and took another road. After a few seconds I remembered that I 
would 
> > like to know his address. I searched for him for one hour, but I 
> > could not find him on the road. It was 2 A.M., and no creature 
was 
> > there on the empty roads. I hurried through many roads, but I 
could 
> > not find any trace of the man.
> > 
> > So I went home and started to read the Secret Doctrine again. It 
was 
> > very peculiar for me, I felt a strong magnetism acting on my 
body, 
> > and mysterious scenes were present in the house where I saw many 
> > images come and go. Many persons came and disappeared again, many 
> > forests, mountains and caves where piles of books were stored, I 
saw 
> > many kinds of temples of different styles with towers, some 
Gothic, 
> > some of old Indian style, some like pyramids. Then I started my 
> > study. I understood each part of it, and after a few months I 
started 
> > to teach the Secret Doctrine regularly: This strange event 
happened 
> > more than 18 years ago, and for the last 13 years, I have been 
> > preparing students for the Secret Doctrine, part by part.
> > 
> > The next day I went to the same road as the night before hoping 
to 
> > meet him again. And I was able to meet him in the same place like 
the 
> > day before. I offered him some food, because the day before he 
had 
> > asked me for some food. The first day he ate, the second day he 
> > said: "You should not offer me anything, unless I ask for it." 
This 
> > was the answer of the second day.
> > 
> > That day he gave me seven or eight pieces of advice.
> > 
> > "From today stop thinking about the thoughts of others. Do not 
try to 
> > know what others may think about you."
> > 
> > This was his first advice to me, and "Do not have any opinion 
about 
> > anyone. You may remember people, but you are not expected to 
remember 
> > whether they are good or bad."
> > 
> > This was the second advice he gave me, and the third:
> > 
> > "Never ask for the opinion of others, if you want to do something 
> > good. If you feel it is good, start to do it. Never discuss 
anything 
> > with anyone."
> > 
> > Like this he gave me the first series of advice. Then followed 
the 
> > most difficult advice:
> > 
> > "Never ask anyone for anything. If you trust me, you will receive 
> > what you desire. If you ask anyone, you will be a beggar. If you 
> > wait, things will come to you. Among the richest of the world 
many 
> > are beggars."
> > 
> > That is what he said:
> > 
> > "If you want to do something useful, if it is in your hands, do 
it. 
> > If you want to eat, if there is food, do eat. If there is none, 
do 
> > not ask, wait."
> > 
> > That was his advice. Ever since that day, I have been able to 
follow 
> > his advice in practice. And there is no need for me to ask for 
> > anything on any day.
> > 
> > When I started to work, I was called to the University, and they 
> > employed me without any application. This has happened three 
times; 
> > exactly like this. This applies not only to me, for anyone who 
trusts 
> > like this, the same form of life will be there. There is no need 
for 
> > you to ask. That gentlemen told me it is the same for everyone. 
The 
> > only thing is that it will be effective from the time he stops 
> > asking. As long as he asks, he will suffer from some 
insufficiency. 
> > From the moment he stops asking for anything, he will have no 
lack of 
> > anything.
> > 
> > From my experience I consider this to be a truth which brings 
good 
> > results to everyone. He gave me many books and rich advice, and 
he 
> > outlined a program of spiritual duties.
> > 
> > Then, I worked as a professor for 13 years. He advised me to 
leave 
> > the place and go to another city, and I went. There I was called 
> > again. He advised me to open charitable dispensaries. I did so 
> > without any help. People started to gather by tens, hundreds and 
> > thousands. They asked me for a plan for the dispensaries, and I 
gave 
> > them a plan. The dispensaries are established, the medicines are 
> > dispensed; each dispensary would cost some thousands of rupees 
> > nowadays, but we have not spent a single rupee for anything. 
Work, 
> > medicines and places were all donated. We are now in the year 
1975, 
> > the 28th clinic is being established in our State.
> > 
> > Then he asked me to start schools. I created a school where the 
> > teachers have no salary and the students do not pay. Everyone was 
> > laughing. The school is now doing extremely well in the ninth 
year. 
> > There are four departments in the school.
> > 
> > The formula is: Manpower replaces money power.
> > 
> > This functions very well. People can take up whatever work they 
want 
> > to without the necessity of any money. Even with money they work 
and 
> > see to it that the money changes hands, only to make up for 
> > psychological weakness. That is what he taught. Even in the hands 
of 
> > people who use money, it acts only as a stimulant for peoples' 
minds, 
> > it is only a catalyser.
> > 
> > Like this, he keeps advising me all the time. Wherever I am, he 
meets 
> > me and gives advice. He gives hints, and remarks concerning the 
> > teachings of Pythagoras, the Vedic mantras and the works of the 
> > Tibetan Master and Mme Blavatsky. He gives hints to many people 
in 
> > many places on earth. He does so telepathically. Once in a year, 
all 
> > these people meet and check and correct their notes. I take notes 
in 
> > my diary. At the same time, a lady in America takes the same 
notes, 
> > and also three doctors in India. We meet once or twice a year and 
> > check the notes.
> > 
> > I call him a Master, I have never wasted time to discuss whether 
he 
> > is a Master or not, for me he is a Master. Like him, I know at 
least 
> > 9 peculiar persons up to now. And I meet these 9 persons again 
and 
> > again. They say, that many thousands like them work in a similar 
> > manner. I asked the old man where he lived and which his identity 
> > was. He said: "Whenever it is necessary, we will meet." And 
whenever 
> > it was necessary, we met. The necessity is decided by him, not by 
me.
> > 
> > The intention of the Masters is the same: to promote the 
evolution of 
> > the individual and hence the human evolution, in order to support 
the 
> > evolution of the planet EARTH and to tune it to the solar and 
cosmic 
> > level.
> > 
> > This is what they do with every step they take. There is no place 
> > where they could not go, and no person whom they could not 
approach.
> > 
> > This is their greatest art: They never reveal their identity to 
> > anyone, but they relate to all men and any work. They can get 
hold of 
> > anyone, but no one can get hold of them. This is the little I 
know 
> > about the Masters.
> > 
> > From the subsequent discussion: The book "Spiritual Astrology" 
> > published under my name, has been communicated entirely by these 
> > people. The more I asked, the more they told me about Astrology, 
> > Alchemy, Yoga, Anatomy and Physiology. Therefore, I cannot claim 
> > authorship of the book, as I stated on the first page. I have 
been 
> > allowed to give the books to everyone, with a few reserves. They 
> > should be kept in a shelf for the free use of any person entering 
the 
> > room, they should not be taken away to another place though. If 
our 
> > friends come to India, they are welcome to use the books. You may 
> > also copy them, but not print.l
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