Theos-Talk Archives (September 2004 Message tt00487)

Sept 17 2004

Dear Z:

Thanks

Let me be clear:

I can only see the value of your “Y factor” in terms of the continuous
exercise of the freedom to choose -- this is a universal power which most
do not realize they exercise. Yet the constantly use it. 

It is limited largely to the present – the current here and now, and every
exercise of choice leads to future developments. Broadly, that is a
verification of karma. 

But how is this?

Why does such a system exist?

Now, can we not also say and include: a wider, older and deeper setting.
It is “non-linear.” It is spherical and involves every other sensitiveunit
– individual – monad. 

The SECRET DOCTRINE posits a universal scheme of Law moved by the potential
goal in sight called “all-knowingness” or “perfection,” or any other
designations anyone can choose –it does not matter. 

It demands attention to three things:

1	The UNIVERSE as a whole [Macrocosms} and its most ancient and not
time-limited LAWS.
This includes CONSCIOUSNESS and awareness as well as memory as a
factor. 

2	The existence of incalculable masses of “Units of Consciousness” –
[Microcosms] This seems to be the end-product of an enormous and
all-inclusive evolutionary scheme. These Units are for the time being
seemingly limited in material forms which they use and call their own. 

As mind and the capacity to think grows, these Units learn more of
themselves, their limits, their potentials, their environment and of their
surroundings – they encounter other “units” similar in potential to
themselves. 

3	Evolutionary advances by masses of units -- as a constant surge and
urge toward wisdom, and a community of knowledge and living. They (the
Units) eventually notice that in Nature that surrounds them all, laws
prevail and oversee the management of the entire universe and their own
forms – some of which (laws) they do not yet know fully, nor have they
chosen to analyse them all. 

4	Death and reincarnation of the eternal student: If death of the
form supervenes in this learning process what becomes of the effort made and
the lessons learned?

It is futility to do anything unless the “fruits” and the flowers” ofone’s
work do not survive. 

5	This leads to the concept of immortality for the UNITS. A record
of achievement is always kept interiorly by each.

In this concept the many, many “Y factors” merge back into a series of
simple parameters which are in general similar and common to all.

Yes, TRUTH is timeless and no one owns it.

This is why I offer my views as inclusive ones and not excluding your good
thought and work.

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----

From: Zakk Duffany [mailto:zakkduffany@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:24 PM
To: theosophia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [theosophia] Y Factor cont'd

Dallas,
 
 A quote from "A Three Fold Path To Wisdom" :
 
"Seek Truth -   Search for that which is true. Not only the truth in which
you see, but the truth that others see. This 

entails many perspectives. Use an eye that is open, an ear that is open. In
keeping yours open, you will
                also be open to the eye and ear of others. This allows for a
greater range of truth to be recognized.
                Speak truth. In seeing, hearing, and speaking truth, you
will touch upon the truth in it's fulness. 
                If one were to see a shirt that is seen to be blue, and
another says it is not blue; seek to find the truth in the
                other's statement. If you cannot see it, do not say "What
you say is false", but instead, say "I do not see
                the truth in what you say". The latter response is a truer
statement. The other, who said the shirt is not
                blue, could be seeing a truthalso. He could be colorblind.
Or he could be thinking that the shirt is reflecting
                blue light, giving it a blue appearance, while in
actuality,  the shirt is every color but blue. Blue is the only
                color the shirt is not, for every color is absorbed into it
except that which is reflected and taken in by
                the eye. There is truth in all things. Only by seeking the
truth in all things, can you see the truth in all things.
                This is the sincere seeker oftruth.
                  Seek not for what is false, for then you will be a seeker
of that which is false. Your focus will be in the
                opposite direction of truth. You will become a knower of
falsehoods instead of a knower of truth. Falsehoods
                will overshadow truth, instead of truth overshadowing
falsehoods."
 
 In the presented line of thinking., a Linear and limited method is
utilized. It is the concepts behind the words and the Truth
within those concepts that is attempted to be conveyed. 
 
 
  In "The Key To Theosophy" there is the quote stated below :
 
"Karma (Sans.) Physically, action; Metaphysically, the LAW of RETRIBUTION;
the Law of Cause and Effect or 
Ethical Causation. It is Nemesis only in the sense of bad Karma. It is the
eleventh Nidana in the concatenation of 
causes and effects in orthodox Buddhism; yet it is the power that controls
all things, the resultant of moral action, 
the metaphysical Samskara, or the moral effect of an act committed for the
attainment of something which gratifies 
a personal desire. There is the Karma of merit and the Karma of demerit.
Karma neither punishes nor rewards; it is 
simply the one Universal LAW which guides unerringly and, so to say,
blindly, all other laws productive of certain 
effects along the grooves of their respective causations."
 
  And in "The Theosophist, Vol. V, No. 9(57), June, 1884, p. 223"  the quote
:
 
"The error often committed, is to mistake the general law of cause and
effect for the law of merit and demerit."
 
  Karma & Derivative Laws of Karma : As previously stated, there is an
Involution process to the One Immutable
Law which is referred to as Karma. The Karma Law of Merit and Demerit is an
example of one of the involuted
Laws produced. It is also a Linear Law of Karma (can be referred to as the
Illusionary Law of Karma as well).
Laws of Karma which are physically based are Linear Laws of Karma. There are
Non-Linear Laws of Karma
which would be considered "greater" Laws of Karma, in the same respect as
"The One Immutable Law" is 
"greater" than those that proceed from it. Physical Laws of Karma proceed
from that which is prior to the
physical. That which is prior "takes precedence" or "supersedes" that which
is derived from it. The "Law of
Forgiveness" is a Law of Karma that is not Linear. It supersedes, and is
prior to, the Karma Law of Merit &
Demerit. It is a Non-Linear Law of Karma. "Along the grooves of their
respective causations" can be seen
as the Paths caused by the Free Choices made. Causations are not always
physical. 
   Y Factor & The Human Experience :  From the point of one's whole or "God"
being to the point of the individual
human being experience, many Choices have been made. There are many "right
variants" not Chosen. Therefore,
it will appear to the "personal mind" (the Linear perceiving mind within the
personality) that it has many restrictions
placed on it. It will appear to have a limited aspect of Free Choice / Will.
To understand and see karma beyond the
limited Linear perception, one must use a different set of eyes and focus of
view. 

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  Given is a scenario for the foundation of expounding on the Y Factor in
the human experience :
 
A man is thirty five years of age. He is a laborer in a factory and
experiences financial poorness. He is told by a
friend that he has Free Choice and he creates his own reality. The man
decides to have financial freedom and
live comfortably. Five years pass. Nothing has changed. The man says to his
friend "You are wrong, I chose to
be rich, and I am not. I have not the freedom of choice, nor do I create my
reality". His friend insists that he does
have Free Choice and creates his reality. The man says " Watch, I will prove
you wrong". The man sets his mind
and chooses to walk through the wall. He tells his friend what he is doing.
The man then proceeds to walk through
the wall. He bumps into it. "See, I told you we have not Free Choice",
states the man.
 
 In this scenario a number of events occur.  The man chooses to be wealthy.
The man does not see the wealth, and in
so being, says there is no Free Choice / Will. The general Path was chosen
before incarnating. To be wealthy in 
this life would be a "right variant" of that already chosen. But since the
man had chosen to experience being wealthy,
he created a karma and will be wealthy at another "time". The time element
is often not taken into consideration.
Because the effect of the choice does not occur "now", does not mean it will
not occur. It may be in another life
experience. This is a reason why it is said to not desire that of maya, when
you Choose that of maya, you are 
creating karma.  The man's choice and desire of wealth is a causation of
which it's karma needs fulfilling. 
The causation of karma through Free Choice / Will is not "action" based.
Therefore the causation is not Linear. 
It is Non-Linear causation. Non-Linear causation can have Non-Linear
effects, rather than only Linear effects. 
Non-Linear causations and effects exist prior to the Linear. 
The man chose to walk through a wall and it did not occur. The Y Factor
shows that it is presently a "right
variant". That experience of walking through a wall does not lie on the
present Path from a past Choice. But,
once again, the man has made a Choice and it will be fulfilled. It will be
fulfilled when it lies on the Path of the 
Choice that was made. The man who did not walk through the wall, was putting
the effect of Free Choice / Will
on his own timetable and set of parameters. It may not always fit as one
wishes. Keeping in mind the Y Factor
can bring understandings to events that occur and events that do not occur.
   Another scenario : A man visits his neighbor. His neighbor just found an
old artifact the day before while digging
a well in his back yard. The man looks at his neighbors artifact and is
intrigued by it. The following week, his
neighbor goes on vacation. The man breaks into his neighbor's house and
steals the artifact. 
  In this scenario, that which is called "bad karma", can be an effect
caused by the theft. The "bad" karma is not
the only effect possible. The man created a Path based on theft when he
stole. This is his karma. The Path created
by theft can be relieved by the "Law of Forgiveness". This is another aspect
of the Y Factor. The Law of 
Forgiveness is a Non-Linear Law of Karma. If the man, after stealing the
artifact, experiences a regretful ness, a 
contriteness of heart for his deed, his Path of karma created by the theft
may be altered. The man, after 
experiencing the contriteness of heart, sets in his mind that he shall never
steal again. He has "learned" a valuable
"lesson". This "lesson" is an effect from the theft. The man chose a Path of
no theft because of it. This decision
altered the Path of karma of theft that he would have experienced had not he
chosen to leave it. The Linear
Law of Merit and Demerit has been superseded by the Non-Linear Law of
Forgiveness. Is not the "lesson
learned" from the action more important than the Demerit of the action? Does
not a "lesson learned" have Merit?
The "lesson learned" is a Non-Linear "Merit". As long as the man follows the
Path of non-theft, the Linear Demerit
that lies on the Linear Path of theft, will not occur. If the man changes
his current Path of non-theft to theft, then 
the experience of the Linear karma for his theft will occur.  In regards to
the Y Factor : The Choice to not steal
again placed the man on a different Path than he would otherwise experience.
It created a Y or fork in his 
present Path. The "right" variant being the Path of theft, the "left"
variant being the Path of no-theft. The Linear 
Demerit lies on the right variant, the Non-Linear "Merit" lies on the left
variant. By choosing the left variant, he 
will not experience what lies on the right variant.
 
Difference in Linear & Non-Linear karma and the Intervention of Masters will
be on next
posting due to length of material presented.
 
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