Theos-Talk Archives (September 2004 Message tt00279)

At 11:58 AM 9/7/2004, you wrote:
> One wonders how one could judge what level of initiation a particular
> individual has gone through. Many may have problems with claims of
> initiation.Of course there would be many who would take such conclusions on
> blind faith. This reminds me of the preachers who on sunday sermons claim
> they talked to Lord Jesus and many in the congregation do believe it and
> then make their tithe contribution.
>
> My 0.02
Mkr [writing to Anand]:

What constitutes a more advanced person? Even more so, what makes one a 
Dhyani-Chohan rather than just a man or woman? We could draw an analogy 
from personal experience by asking a similar question. What makes one a 
member of the human kingdom rather than just a member of the animal 
kingdom? That answer is qualitative rather than quantitative. An animal 
does not become human by simply running faster, flying higher, or seeing 
better.

If a bird flew through a classroom, it would see people sitting at desks, 
looking at someone standing at a chalkboard. It would see what is going on 
as meaningless, completely missing what was going on. The sounds of people 
talking about mathematics would be seen as an inferior attempt at singing, 
of poor musical quality. The bird would simply not realize that a different 
principle of consciousness -- Manas -- was in action, and the people were 
being animals *plus something more*. The people had an additional type of 
consciousness added another dimension to the experience of life.

Come now to the Dhyani-Chohans. They would be human beings just like any of 
us, but also having *something more*. In this case, it would be additional 
active principles of consciousness. Like thought, that consciousness adds 
an additional perspective to the experience of life. It's not seeing 
better, flying higher, or any type of sensory enhancement. Whether their 
sight is limited to this plane or not, whether they exist here or on other 
globes, it makes no difference.

The distinguishing characteristic, I would say, is profound insight, an 
entirely different way of appreciating life that is as complex and rich as 
thinking is to us humans. It is not clairvoyance, astral projection, or the 
ability to produce phenomena, all of which are faculties that could be 
shared with beings of all kingdoms. They have awakened in themselves higher 
principles than are functional in them, and those principles contribute to 
a richer *here and now* experience of life.

-- Eldon