Theos-Talk Archives (August 2004 Message tt00755)

Aug 31 2004
Re Keeley's Motor & "force"

Dear Friends:

>From the S D we can obtain key statements made by HPB.  

They show that the Occultists knew quite well what Keeley was dealing with
and what his special nature and its limits were.

Let us remember that the Mahatmas certified that the SECRET DOCTRINE was the
triple production of Their work and H P B as Their "messenger." 
(see below)

Re: KEELEY MOTOR


[Summary of Secret Doctrine I, pp. 555 - 566]


FROM A NULL POINT (LAYA POINT) TO ENERGY


His inter-etheric point is the laya-point of the Occultists, which, however,
does not require "an infinite mind to understand it," but only a specific
intuition and ability to trace its hiding-place in this world of matter. Of
course, the laya centre cannot be produced, but an inter-etheric vacuum
can—as proved in the production of bell-sounds in space. 

Mr. Keely speaks as an unconscious Occultist, nevertheless, when he remarks
in his theory of planetary suspension:—

"As regards planetary volume, we would ask in a scientific point of view,
How can the immense difference of volume in the planets exist without
disorganising the harmonious action that has always characterised them? I
can only answer this question properly by entering into a progressive
analysis, starting on the rotating etheric centres that were fixed ….. with
their attractive or accumulative power. If you ask what power it is that
gives to each etheric atom its inconceivable velocity of rotation (or
introductory impulse), I must answer that no finite mind will ever be able
to conceive what it is. The philosophy of accumulation is the only proof
that such a power has been given. 

The area, if we can so speak, of such an atom, presents to the attractive or
magnetic, the elective or propulsive, all the receptive force and all the
antagonistic force that characterises a planet of the largest magnitude;
consequently, as the accumulation goes on, the perfect equation remains the
same. 

When this minute centre has once been fixed, the power to rend it from its
position would necessarily have to be so great as to displace the most
immense planet that exists. When this atomic neutral centre is displaced,
the planet must go with it. The neutral centre carries the full load of any
accumulation from the start, and remains the same, for ever balanced in the
eternal space." 


“…that principle in man which can control and guide etheric vibratory force.
At any rate it exists in all those mortals whose inner selves are
primordially connected, by reason of their direct descent, with that group
of Dhyan-Chohans who are called "the first-born of Ether." 

Mankind, psychically considered, is divided into various groups, each of
which is connected with one of the Dhyanic groups that first formed psychic
man; (see paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 in the Commentary to Stanza VII.) 

Mr. Keely being greatly favoured in this respect, and moreover, besides his
psychic temperament, being intellectually a genius in mechanics, may thus
achieve most wonderful results. He has achieved some already—more than any
mortal man, not initiated into the final mysteries, has achieved in this age
up to the present day. What he has done is certainly quite sufficient "to
demolish with the hammer of Science the idols of Science"—the idols of
matter with the feet of clay…. 

Occultly this was a far more advanced achievement than the "success" which
he anticipates from his "wire," but the results obtained from the fifth and
sixth planes of the etheric (or Astral) Force, will never be permitted to
serve for purposes of commerce and traffic. That Keely's organism is
directly connected with the production of the marvellous results is proven
by the following statement emanating from one who knows the great discoverer
intimately. 

In this he is quite right; but this is electricity on the terrestrial plane,
and through terrestrial correlations. He estimates—

Molecular vibrations at 100,000,000 per second.
Inter-molecular " " 300,000,000 " "
Atomic " " 900,000,000 " "
Inter-atomic " " 2,700,000,000 " "
Ætheric " " 8,100,000,000 " "
Inter-Ætheric " "24,300,000,000 " "

This proves our point. There are no vibrations that could be counted or even
estimated at an approximate rate beyond "the realm of the fourth son of
Fohat," using an occult phraseology, or that motion which corresponds to the
formation of Mr. Crookes' radiant matter, or lightly called some years ago
the "fourth state of matter"—on this our plane. 


The MORAL FACTOR

Occult philosophy divulges few of its most important vital mysteries. It
drops them like precious pearls, one by one, far and wide apart, and only
when forced to do so by the evolutionary tidal wave that carries on humanity
slowly, silently, but steadily toward the dawn of the Sixth-Race mankind.
For once out of the safe custody of their legitimate heirs and keepers,
those mysteries cease to be occult: they fall into the public domain and
have to run the risk of becoming in the hands of the selfish—of the Cainsof
the human race—curses more often than blessings. 

It will be at its appointed place and time only when the great roaring flood
of starvation, misery, and underpaid labour ebbs back again—as it will when
happily at last the just demands of the many are attended to; when the
proletariat exists but in name, and the pitiful cry for bread, that rings
throughout the world unheeded, has died away. 

This may be hastened by the spread of learning, and by new openings for work
and emigration, with better prospects than exist now, and on some new
continent that may appear. Then only will "Keely's Motor and Force," as
originally contemplated by himself and friends, be in demand, because it
will be more needed by the poor than by the wealthy. 

. . . "It is as platina [platinum] to hydrogen gas. Molecular separation of
air brings us to the first sub-division only; inter-molecular, to the
second; atomic, to the third; inter-atomic, to the fourth; etheric, to the
fifth; and inter-etheric, to the sixth sub-division, or positive association
with luminiferous ether.* In my introductory argument I have contended that
this is the vibratory envelope of all atoms. 

In my definition of atom I do not confine myself to the sixth sub-division
where this luminiferous ether is developed in its crude form as far as my
researches prove. † I think this idea will be pronounced by the physicists
of the present day, a wild freak of the imagination. Possibly, in time, a
light may fall upon this theory that will bring its simplicity forward for
scientific research. At present I can only compare it to some planet in a
dark space, where the light of the sun of science has not yet reached it. .
." 

"I assume that sound, like odour, is a real substance of unknown and
wonderful tenuity, emanating from a body where it has been induced by
percussion and throwing out absolute corpuscles of matter, inter-atomic
particles, with velocity of 1,120 feet per second; in vacuo 20,000. 

The substance which is thus disseminated is a part and parcel of the mass
agitated, and, if kept under this agitation continuously, would, in the
course of a certain cycle of time, become thoroughly absorbed by the
atmosphere; or, more truly, would pass through the atmosphere to an elevated
point of tenuity corresponding to the condition of sub-division that governs
its liberation from its parent body." . . . 



VIBRATIONS: ODOR, SOUND

"As regards odour, we can only get some definite idea of its extreme and
wondrous tenuity by taking into consideration that a large area of
atmosphere can be impregnated for a long series of years from a single grain
of musk; which, if weighed after that long interval, will be found to be not
appreciably diminished. The great paradox attending the flow of odorous
particles is that they can be held under confinement in a glass vessel! Here
is a substance of much higher tenuity than the glass that holds it, and yet
it cannot escape. It is as a sieve with its meshes large enough to pass
marbles, and yet holding fine sand which cannot pass through; in fact, a
molecular vessel holding an atomic substance. This is a problem that would
confound those who stop to recognize it. But infinitely tenuous as odour is,
it holds a very crude relation to the substance of sub-division that governs
a magnetic flow (a flow of sympathy, if you please to call it so). This
sub-division comes next to sound, but is above sound. The action of the flow
of a magnet coincides somewhat to the receiving and distributing portion of
the human brain, giving off at all times a depreciating ratio of the amount
received. It is a grand illustration of the control of mind over matter,
which gradually depreciates the physical till dissolution takes place. The
magnet on the same ratio gradually loses its power and becomes inert. If the
relations that exist between mind and matter could be equated and so held,
we would live on in our physical state eternally, as there would be no
physical depreciation. But this physical depreciation leads, at its
terminus, to the source of a much higher development—viz., the liberationof
the pure ether from the crude molecular; which, in my estimation, is to be
much desired."—

Mr. Keely defines electricity "as a certain form of atomic vibration." 

“There is a transcendental set of causes put in motion—so to speak—inthe
occurrence of these phenomena, which, not being in relation to our narrow
range of cognition, can only be traced to their source and their nature, and
understood by the Spiritual faculties of the Adept. 

They are, as Asclepios puts it to the King, "incorporeal
corporealities"—such as "appear in the mirror," and "abstract forms" thatwe
see, hear, and smell, in our dreams, and visions. What have the "modes of
motion," light, and ether to do with these? 

Yet we see, hear, and smell, and touch them, ergo they are as much realities
to us in our dreams, as any other thing on this plane of Maya”. 
SECRET DOCTRINE I 555 - 566

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These are key statements made by HPB in the S D . They show that the
Occultists knew quite well what Keeley was dealing with and what his special
nature and its limits were.

Here is the certificate given by the Masters on the authorship of the
SECRET DOCTRINE 

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AUTHORSHIP OF SECRET DOCTRINE

A good deal has been said about the writing of Isis Unveiled, and later of
the Secret Doctrine, both by H. P. Blavatsky. A writer in the spiritualistic
journals took great pains to show how many books the first work seems to
quote from, and the conclusion to be arrived at after reading his diatribes
is that H.P.B. had an enormous library at her disposal, and of course in her
house, for she never went out, or that she had agents at great expense
copying books, or, lastly, that by some process or power not known to the
world was able to read books at a distance, as, for instance, in the Vatican
at Rome and the British Museum. The last is the fact. She lived in a small
flat when writing the first book and had very few works on hand, all she had
being of the ordinary common sort. She herself very often told how she
gained her information as to modern books. No secret was made of it, for
those who were with her saw day after day that she could gaze with ease into
the astral light and glean whatever she wanted. But in the early days she
did not say precisely to the public that she was in fact helped in that work
by the Masters, who gave from time to time certain facts she could not get
otherwise. The Secret Doctrine, however, makes no disguise of the real help,
and she asserts, as also many of us believe, that the Masters had a hand in
that great production. The letters sent to Mr. Sinnett formed the ground for
Esoteric Buddhism, as was intended, but as time went on it was seen that
some more of the veil had to be lifted and certain misconceptions cleared
up; hence the Secret Doctrine was written, and mostly by the Masters
themselves, except that she did the arranging of it.

For some time it was too much the custom of those who had received at the
hands of H.P.B. words and letters from her Masters to please themselves with
the imagination that she was no more in touch with the original fount, and
that, forsooth, these people could decide for themselves what was from her
brain and what from the Masters. But it is now time to give out a
certificate given when the Secret Doctrine was being written, a certificate
signed by the Masters who have given out all that is new in our theosophical
books. It was sent to one who had then a few doubts, and at the same time
copies were given from the same source to others for use in the future,
which is now. The first certificate runs thus:

I wonder if this note of mine is worthy of occupying a select spot with the
documents reproduced, and which of the peculiarities of the "Blavatskian"
style of writing it will be found to most resemble? The present is simply to
satisfy the Doctor that "the more proof given the less believed." Let him
take my advice and not make these two documents public. It is for his own
satisfaction the undersigned is happy to assure him that the Secret
Doctrine, when ready, will be the triple production of [here are the names
of one of the Masters and of H.P.B.] and _______ most humble servant,
[signed by the other.]

On the back of this was the following, signed by the Master who is mentioned
in the above:

If this can be of any use or help to _____, though I doubt it, I, the humble
undersigned Faquir, certify that the Secret Doctrine is dictated to [name of
H.P.B.], partly by myself and partly by my brother ______.

A year after this, certain doubts having arisen in the minds of individuals,
another letter from one of the signers of the foregoing was sent and reads
as follows. As the prophecy in it has come true, it is now the time to
publish it for the benefit of those who know something of how to take and
understand such letters. For the outside it will all be so much nonsense.

The certificate given last year saying the Secret Doctrine would be when
finished the triple production of [H.P.B.'s name], ________, and myself was
and is correct, although some have doubted not only the facts given in it
but also the authenticity of the message in which it was contained. Copy
this and also keep the copy of the aforesaid certificate. You will find them
both of use on the day when you shall, as will happen without your asking,
receive from the hands of the very person to whom the certificate was given,
the original for the purpose of allowing you to copy it; and then you can
verify the correctness of this presently forwarded copy. And it may then be
well to indicate to those wishing to know what portions in the Secret
Doctrine have been copied by the pen of [H.P.B.'s name] into its pages,
though without quotation marks, from my own manuscript and perhaps from
______, though the last is more difficult from the rarity of his known
writing and greater ignorance of his style. All this and more will be found
necessary as time goes on, but for which you are well qualified to wait."

ONE OF THE STAFF
Path, April, 1893
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Best wishes, 

Dallas
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leon M  
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:54 AM
To: 
Subject: [bn-study] Re: Revisionism in Theosophical Literature

Friends

I wouldn't be so sure that the Keely Engine, or at least the concept of 
extracting the "etheric energy" from the vacuum of space, was entirely
false.  

Although the evidence proved that he was in fact a charlatan and did fake
his "motor" itself -- which fooled HPB as well as a lot of other backers.  

See http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/keely/keely.htm)  

However, HPB did know the possibilities of such energy being extractable --
since she assumed Keely was using his own psychic energy (which she knew the
power of) to make the machine work. Also, she did mention in the SD that it
wouldn't work without him being present.  

CUT