Theos-Talk Archives (August 2004 Message tt00395)

Hallo Steve and all,

My views are:

Just to rescue the old woman...

You wrote:
"In her TRANSACTIONF OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE HPB says "only Adepts" can
> do this, but that is not true because I have experienced it myself,
> as have numerous others. You can then use your sleeping hours for
> meditation, astral projection, or whatever you choose. You just
> cannot move. Intriguingly, this sort of sleep is more rereshing
> physically than the sort normal people know."

I agree that those who are not Adepts can experience this.
I have too you know. Well when not being an Adept.

To help the old woman:
I thought HPB meant that only an Adept can do it in a perfectly controlled
manner.
Sometimes the word "Adept" when used by HPB also refers to those who
just has a minor initiation not only the fifth.


from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stevestubbs" <stevestubbs@yahoo.com>
To: <ham>; <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 1:09 AM
Subject: ham,Theos-World was Judge a yogi?


> Someone emailed me privatel asking for evidence that Judge was a
> yogi. In case it is of interest to anyone else, here is a copy of my
> response.
>
> Yes, but do not know if I can remember where they were. Judge and
> Blavatsky both wrote about a phenomenon known to yogis but not to
> outsiders in which the mind awakens when the body is asleep and
> remains awake throughout the night. The first time one experiences
> this it is scary because the body goes into what scientists call "REM
> paralysis." This is what keeps most people from walking in their
> sleep and causes you to dream that your legs are stuck in molasses or
> whatever. When your mind awakens and your body is still asleep all
> your muscles are paralyzed, but the phenomenon only lasts until the
> body awakes the following morning.
>
> In her TRANSACTIONF OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE HPB says "only Adepts" can
> do this, but that is not true because I have experienced it myself,
> as have numerous others. You can then use your sleeping hours for
> meditation, astral projection, or whatever you choose. You just
> cannot move. Intriguingly, this sort of sleep is more rereshing
> physically than the sort normal people know.
>
> I THINK I may have read about Judge doing this in LETTERS THAT HAVE
> HELPED ME, but am not sure. I do know I read about it. This is not
> common knowledge even today, and only a yogi would have known about
> it in 1880. So Judge and Blavatsky were either yogis or learned
> about it from people who were.
>
> Someone on the theos talk list posted a story about Judge doing a
> lecture or demo or something and being seen by the audience as he
> appeared in previous lifetimes. I have seen this phenomenon myself
> (it is done deliberately in Rosicrucian Lodges) and can verify from
> direct personal observation that the story is credible. That others
> do see one transfigured is a fact. What a skeptic would question is
> whether there are past lives and whether the images seen are really
> the way the person looked in past lives. This is not a trick, though.
>
> One last point that Judge wrote about, and this is in LETTERS THAT
> HAVE HELPED ME, is a very advanced yoga practice in which the yogi,
> when dying, transfers his consciousness principle (soul if you will)
> into the body of another person who is vacating it prematurely. This
> is considered ethical so long as the previous occupant is not evicted
> by force, in which case it becomes black magic, the specialty of
> Chuch the Whatsit. Some very young boy "died" leaving a perfectly
> usable physical body which Judge (at the time an aged and dying yogi)
> then took over for his own use. From the point of view of the
> parents the boy was deathly ill, then made an amazing recocery, and
> had a completely different personality after his recovery. The new
> personality had an interest in things that did not interest the
> previous one, namely metaphysics, yoga, etc. Theoretically the new
> occupant slips in through the "aperture of Brahma" (Brahmarandhra),
> which is a suture in the top of the skull through which the crown
> chakra is accessed and through which kundalini sometimes shoots out.
> Once again the story is credible, since there are yogis who can do
> this, and it suggests Judge was extremely advanced.
>
> If you are interested in further details of the practice you can
> consult Olcott's OLD DIARY LEAVES, volume 1, and Evans Wentz's book
> TIBETAN YOGA AND SECRET DOCTRINES. I believe Olcott may mention this
> is much less detail in a later bolume of ODL in connection with his
> notes on Swami Dayanand. Neither of these have much practical info,
> which is still handed down by oral transmission. (Not to be confused
> with an automatic transmission.) Exiting your body in this manner
> could be quite dangerous if done incompetently.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>