Theos-Talk Archives (August 2004 Message tt00109)

Aug 7 04

Dear A.

As I see it there are 2 "I" s (Egos) in me. One is very involved in my
likes and dislikes.  

The other is detached and says? Why? For how long? And it can by logic
destroy any short-term hopes, fancies and wishes of the "desire-mind" by
asking if a scheme is carried out fully what might be the consequences?
Especially if death intervenes. 

But what I would call the "Real I" am superior to both or either. And I can
direct them as I choose. "I" in this case am not concerned with the
shortness of life as I can sense there is a continuity -- failing such a
continuity, all life's efforts are futile. Build, scheme, design,
manipulate -- and in the end What is gained?

Does that make 3 "I" s ? Or are they so confusedly blended on purpose? Can
they be sorted out?

I would say there is 

1.	the PERMANENT "I"

2.	There is the logical and thinking "I"

3.	There is the third "I" and as I define it, it is the emotional,
desire and impassioned mind -- or perhaps it is a part of the mind that is
entrapped temporarily in the shifting vistas of desire, wants, urges, yens,
schemes, passions, and other such short-termed objectives. That would set
the "desires and passions" as some items separate from the mind per se. 

Also, as I see it, this 3rd "passion and desire-mind" lacks the ability to
see the damage it can do to itself and the pain and suffering it might
inflict on others.  

Also, I wonder if the Universe (Nature) as a total, tolerates such
misdirected individual activity? Does it have some method of rectification?
Is that "Karma?"

It also cannot anticipate the finality of its own death, and consider this
as a vital factor in its considerations. For such is the area where Mind 1
and Mind 2 work. 

Now how to balance these? And how to study them?

Something in me can "see" all three. Is this (Mind 1) ?

Theosophy calls I (Mind 1) a "ray of the Universal Spirit." It adds that
the whole proces of life is a succession of many lives and advocated
reincarnation as a reasonable fact.

(Mind 2) does the work of logical arranging of data and deriving
conclusions, regardless of the desires and inclinations of (Mind 3.)

In that case what causes us to be "born upon the cross?" Cross of what? 

Is this actual or a symbolical cross :
(Vertical line = "Spirit"--- and "Horizontal line = "Matter")

So any ideas ?

Dallas
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 7:48 PM
To: Analyze Self

Subject: From: H.P. Lovecraft


The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance
in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should
voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto
harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge
will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful
position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee
from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age. 

Theosophists have guessed at the awesome grandeur of the cosmic cycle
wherein our world and human race form transient incidents.

Andrew S

"We are born upon the cross . . . you can release yourself, but the only way
to go is down." --- Dio