Theos-Talk Archives (August 2004 Message tt00021)

In the posting below from Gregory Tillett, he ends
his message with the following:

"....plain-speaking answers would be appreciated."

Unfortunately, the plain-speaking answers are NOT
forthcoming; in fact, there is only a deafening
silence....

Daniel
http://hpb.cc



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, gregory <gregory@z...> wrote:
> Poor Pedro has to carefully avoid a basic - and to most historians 
and 
> indeed most human beings a really simple - issue by (Adyar's 
preferred 
> methods rides again!) attacking critics rather than dealing with 
> substance. Poor Leadbeater is being persecuted, etc., etc. This 
was, of 
> course, Leadbeater's preferred response to any criticism. But the 
> question of when someone was born is hardly a great occult mystery!
> 
> So - let's cut out the spin and challenge Pedro to answer some 
simple 
> questions:
> 
> 1. Did Leadbeater consistently lie about his background (including 
his 
> birthdate) up until the time when he began to prepare for the 
Anglican 
> ministry, and cause others to lie about it too?
> 
> 2. If "no" - then what is the explanation for the conflict between 
the 
> official public record (e.g. the UK Registrar-General's records, 
the 
> British census returns, the Anglican diocesan records) and 
Leadbeater's 
> public claims?
> 
> 3. If "yes" - then on what basis can claims about the "invisible" 
be 
> believed when made by a man whose claims about the mundane are 
> demonstratbly false?
> 
> Given that Pedro is a priest of the Liberal Catholic Church, I 
might also 
> ask:
> 
> 4. On what basis did the Liberal Catholic Church accept the 
corrected 
> Leadbeater birth date (as, e.g., in the Shearman book and the 
Shearman 
> biographical preface to "A Christian Gnosis") and then revert to 
the old 
> birthdate (as, e.g. in the General Episcopal Synod resolution that, 
since 
> Leadbdater could not lie, he must have been born in1847)?
> 
> Assuming "there is no religion higher than truth" (and accepting at 
face 
> value Leadbeater's teachings on the necessaity of truthfulness, 
honesty, 
> the avoidance of any untruth, etc. as found in, e.g. "Talks on 'At 
the 
> Feet of the Master'"), plain-speaking answers would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> Dr Gregory Tillett