Theos-Talk Archives (July 2004 Message tt00276)

July 23 2004

Dear J and Friends:

I don't recall Mme. Blavatsky referring to "4 stages of Nirvana." Maybe I
missed something?

All I can think of are correspondences given in the teachings -- as viewed
from this our present plane of objectivity and things that have tangible
forms.

This relates to a State Of Consciousness that only the Adepts, the elder
Brothers and the Masters know by actual entrance into it and then by WILL
their individual return here as witnesses and teachers -- the S D gives us
good cause to value that. 

1.	"Deep sleep" (or Sushupti) resembles Nirvana ( see TRANSACTIONS OF
THE BLAVATSKY LODGE pp 65-6)

2.	"Devachan" (has two states: Rupa and Arupa) also resembles "Nirvana"
as far as we are concerned. ( see THEOS ART. & NOTES pp. 17-34 and read
what is said in The KEY TO THEOSOPHY and The OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY on
Devachan).

3	"Turiya or Samadhi" a profound state of mediation may compare with
this -- as attainable only but the morally pure and rect individuals who
follow the PATH. Their individual CONSCIOUSNESS is not obliterated but
enhanced and after this "initiation" they become "faultless seers." 

4.	"Pralaya" and "Layam" (at the end of a Mahamanvantara, might be
compared to a Nirvana). Some definitions of the state of consciousness
there ought to be compared and contrasted.


"Nirvana" or "Paranirvana" -- many descriptions (S D has the best and also
MAHATMA LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME - Judge,, so have The KEY TO THEOSOPHY
and The OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY )

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In the S D   

NIRVANA S Ds d II 204. See also Devachan, Paranirvana

akasa &, objectively eternal I 635 
aspired to by kumaras II 243 
devachan & I 173 
dreamless sleep & I 266 
five becomes seven in II 580 
four paths to I 206 
individual pralaya I 371 
laya a synonym for I 140, 289 &n 
man loses self in I 570 
maruts renounce II 615 
men can reach II 246 
merging w Alaya is not I 48 
monads not reaching, fate of II 57 &n 
nirmanakayas, elect, renounce II 281-2, 615 
no, for men without personal egos II 610 
passage of spirit to Be-ness I 193 
post-manvantaric I 373; II 491 
promised land or I 568 &n 
qualifications to enter I xix; II 81 
reached by Buddha II 532 
reached by suffering II 81 
seven paths to I 38-9 
thread of radiance dissolves in II 80 
turiya samadhi or I 570 
vanishing point of matter I 177 
various names of I 38 &n
highest, start manvantara II 232 
returning II 79-80, 232 
spirits of men becoming I 240

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Hope this subject list is found interesting.  

Best wishes as always,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----

From: samb

Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:23 PM
To: 
Subject: : Evolution and Emptiness TIME, MIND, ILLUSION, REALITY,...

Dallas,

Thanks as always for your post. I enjoyed reading the excellent choice
of 
the content you selected for our perusal.

Below is a website on Buddhism that I found to have unique content that 
"pinged" my mind reflectively to certain Theosophical idea's, I will let
each 
make their own evaluation as to that.

http://www.yogichen.org/efiles/bmch3.html

Also over time as I read posts occasionally mention is made about the 
Buddhist term "Nirvana," but if my memory is right I do not remember mention

being made of the fact that Nirvana is composed of "Four Stages." What did
Madame Blavatsky have to say about the "Four Stages of Nirvana?" 

J