Theos-Talk Archives (July 2004 Message tt00172)

July 12 2004

Dear Mauri:

Consider:

What is the difference between a thoughtful person and one who is still not
ale to probe deep to base roots?

Are "speculations" based on "deep roots" or, on partial levels of
understanding, and therefore they shift and are unstable?

How is it that you define life as a "duality?" What are its components?

If "speculations" are held, are they illusory or real?  

Are they legitimate "threads of thought" under development? 

Or are they raised for the sake of amusement and argument by our "lower
minds"? In other words, what positive good are they? Do they last, or fade
and disappear?  

What has been done with the vast heap of speculations over the past few
years? If they have disappeared (or been stored) then what ? Any
increment? Can it be measured? Has it value?

How could a "deep root of thought" be defined, or, if any, are they to be
totally denied? If so, how does it happen we are here at all and able to
communicate?

What allows communication? Query? Language? Medium of communication?
Search for a more definite positional answer? Or, is it just "hot air?"
Clouds are nice and sometimes there is enough of them to provide rain. When
excessive we have floods. Why? Can norms and balances be found?

When swimming in a lake, or the ocean, I know there is a bottom and above
the water's surface is air. I need that air. I also need to find the
nearest shore as I can't float indefinitely, and am not equipped to find my
food in the water without a platform, tools and maybe, intelligent
assistance.  

So (if I desire to live) I begin to think about essentials. What are they
and where are they? This is what I am trying to convey.

Many of us have ideas. Some are definite as memory of experience. Some are
speculative as fancy and "What ifs?" So what is useful to us and others?

Best wishes,

Dallas
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mauri
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 8:31 AM
To: 
Subject: re "Maya"

Dallas (to Gerald)


<<On what basis is the 
"Real Me: the (my) inner "Observer" and 
"Director," "Chooser," etc... not 
"real?" And even if, agreeably to you 
(and the doctrines), it is a Maya, on 
every plane of differentiation and 
manifestation, except the "imputed" 
utterly transcendent, then, where does 
that MAYA originate? And Why ? >>

I'd like to interject some speculation.

To my way of thinking, speculating, this 
immersion in duality that we call "life" 
has blinded us, put us under its spell, 
in a sense, in that how can there be 
anything intrinsicly "real" in anything 
that's dependent on something else ... 
Isn't it obvious that, inasmuchas 
everything in this "ordinary reality" is 
seen as the product of 
dependent/dualistic arisings, then that 
kind conditionality in terms of "life" 
would be, or could be called "Mayavic" ...

Speculatively,
Mauri



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