RE: Homeopathy
Jul 10, 2004 05:18 PM
by Dallas TenBroeck
July 10 2004
RE: Homeopathy
Dear Bart:
Many thanks for the information.
My experience (and my mother's, earlier) show that the Homeopathic system is
effective, but has to be directed at the specific person. Some general
remedies and pain killers do work.
Example (in my case)
for Flu And Cold cure / prevention ALPHA C & F works (Highlands)
for Arthritis (joint pains) ARNICA 30 X and 200 X
(Boericke & T)
Muscular pains and spasms KALI MUR 30 X and 200 X
Nerve regeneration (after paralysis) CHAMOMILLA 30 X and 200 X
In some cases the relief effect takes place in a few seconds.
This is for your information
Allopathic medications also work, but I find they are used tentatively and
are not uniformly effective. But that can be said of all curative attempts
made using any system.
Your described experimental analytic program I am familiar with. However
human bodies cannot be invariably treated as mechanically assembled. What
cures one may not help all, and the psychological component ought to be
considered, but I am not sure that all will agree on a method of doing this.
Those who handle mesmerism and hypnotism report on this and Theosophy does
offer explanations on Mesmerism, valuing it superior to hypnosis.
I have found that Homeopathy combines many sources for remedies, and has a
large and explicit literature.
I was trained in college in chemistry, and as the titration process used in
Homeopath was well described, I have puzzled over the vanishing molecules as
the solvent ever increased their attenuation -- and the effect left in the
solvent seems to be potent enough as I have found out.
Is the "proof" only in the eating?
But then, atoms are sub-divisions of molecules and presumably their
continued presence may influence may be responsible for the continued
transfer of a more subtle influence. HPB in one place PSYCHIC AND NOETIC
ACTION article) says the atoms are actually "astral" and consist of "forces"
rather than anything "physical."
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Page Notes & References [from: PSY & NOETIC ACTION -
HPB Art II p 7 ]
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19 Cell is Conscious - in Occultism: " A Conscious Unit"
[Monad - SD I 630fn 632 II 658-9]
19 Atoms "supersensuous Beings" - Ladd
An independent Entity -- Occultism SD I 453-5
SD I 51 43 107 150 178 218fn 277 343 485 512-3
SD I 53-5 553 567 632-3 582 WQJ ART I 29
VOICE 26-7 HPB ART II 29 272 FORUM 65-6
19 Atoms Have free-will to act within the limits of law
WQJ ART I 106-11 604-6
19 Memory - Has no special seat, but is all over
the body and its organs
21 Personal Ego, physically egotistical, enjoying personal
sensations,
victimizing his neighbor, has nothing to do
with the
Higher Mind
HPB ART I 322-3 II 282fn FORUM 58
WQJ II 452 522-3
21 - It is active, the Higher Ego is not.
21 Brain & Heart (physical) - organs of the Personality
21 Passional Organs - liver, stomach, spleen, etc...
WQJ LETTERS p. 200
21 Kamic Organs - evoke memory of personal and
selfish deeds terrestrial and biological
MOLECULAR "Sense Thought"- Memory is first awakened in
those organs which was to first induce the
action which was remembered afterwards
22 Memory inheres in every organ - each cell has a memory
- Psychic and Noetic action is possible to each organ
- responsive to both physical and metaphysical
forces and touch
22 PSYCHO-MOLECULAR FORCE - psychic corresponds as the
Body covers the other principles, so the Molecule
covers the atoms and the Cell covers the molecules
HPB ART II 378 477
22 NOETIC FORCE - is Spiritual-dynamic and that Force
works from within without
SD I 178-9 221 567 632-3 619
M L 137-9 TRANS 32-34
- does not relate to the physical cells
22 ATOMS - ATOMS BEING PSYCHO-SPIRITUAL (not physical)
act under laws of their own HPB II 481
FORUM ANS 71 WQJ ART I 39 S D I 622-623
22 Cells' Activity is determined on whether it is
propelled either by the
1. inward force - NOETIC, or
2. outward force PSYCHIC
22 Every human organ and cell has a keyboard of its own,
registering sensations instead of sounds
impulse given produce combinations by the
"artist" at work
23 - 2 Faced Entity produces either of the effects.
Affects nature, and dynamics of the resulting
phenomenon and action as to whether it will
be physical or mental.
23 Wisdom Above - noetic or spiritual - worthy actions
23 "Terrestrial, Devilish Wisdom"
- psychic power - selfish - based on desires of
the animal, physical nature
23 BODY - a harp with 2 sets of strings
Silver 1. silver - when moved by divine breath
man is a God-like
Cat-gut 2.(animal --see below)
23 - The Higher Mind alone influences the atoms that
interact in the physical cells
23 Spine - this interaction can influence the brain via
the spinal "center" cord to a mental
representation of spiritual ideas
(THEOS. ART & NOTES 20-1)
23 - divine consciousness - the activity of our mind
on another, higher plane - does not work
through the molecules of the brain.
Heart - the Heart is the most excellent organ through
which the "Higher Ego" works to influence the
Lower Self.
23 "catgut" 2. catgut strings, when: moved by terrestrial animal
effluvia it is the physical, lower mind which acts
on the physical organs and their cells
23 Brain - cerebral physiological processes only mold
great ideas for concrete manifestation
23 Liver - Spleen - are the organs most subservient to
our "personal" mind
Memory Visions - have first to be stimulated by those
organs in which the memories are stored, thence
to the Heart and from there to the Brain
23-4 Association of Ideas - works through the "personal Mind Entity"
which is first stimulated by the
memory residing in the physical organs
SD I 632-3
24 - Ex.: hunger - thought of a banquet
24 Tablets of memory - store the minutest details
of events of life [ Akasa ]
24 - the PHYSICAL ORGANS originate, according to the animal needs and
desires the elctro-vital spark that illuminate the field
of consciousness in the "Lower Ego"
24 - and in their turn these sparks awaken to function the
reminiscence in that organ
24 - the PHYSICAL BODY as a whole is a sounding board
in which each cell bears a long record of
impressions connected with its organ, and each cell
has a memory and consciousness (instinct) of its own
(see SD I 632-3)
24 Impressions - can be 1. physical
2. psychic
3. mental
24 Consciousness - planes or "states" for want of better expression
1. instinctual
2. mental
3. purely abstract
Gita Notes pp 98-100
24 Brain - is the "front-door" for psychic actions and
for opening out into Space
- all others open inward, transmitting memory and
sensation
- their clarity depend on health and organic soundness of
the transmitters
24 Correctness - due to the originating principle,
and the preponderance in the Lower Manas of:
1. the noetic, or the
2. the Phrenic (Kamic, terrestrial)
24 Higher-Mind-Entity - permanent and immortal
(see SD I 570-1 KEY 132-3 TRANS 68)
Alaya-Akasa - Mahat - is of the divine homogeneous essence
of "Alaya-Akasa" or Mahat
24 HIGHER MIND-ENTITY
- a pure ray of the "Son of the Universal Mind" - Manasic
24 - is powerless over turbulent organs of Matter
24 - can perform no functions in
the body SD II 145
25 - "It is a part of the mission of the Manasic
Ray, to get gradually rid of the blind,
deceptive element which, though it makes
of it an active spiritual entity on this
plane, still brings it into so close an
active contact with matter as to entirely
becloud its divine nature and stultify its
intuitions." SD I 571 Epitome 14
24 PERSONAL MIND - temporary principle
- is of the substance of the Astral Light
24-25 - is heterogeneous, leavened with the Astral Light.
the lowest element of Ether. 25 Seership
25 SEERSHIP
1 - paralyzing the memory with the instinctual, independent
action of all material organs and cells of the physical
fleshly body
" once that the light of the Higher Ego has consumed and
subjected for ever the passional nature of the personal
lower Ego."
25 ADEPT
2 - being a reincarnation of one who in a previous birth
had
attained through extreme purity of life and efforts in the
right direction almost to a Yogi-like state of holiness and
saintship. Ex.: Boehme
25 3 - independent of the will of the seer: due
to extreme weakness and exhaustion of
the material body.
Ex.: Seeress of Prevorst (se ISIS UNVEILED )
25 MEDIUMSHIP - covers all other cases
- a person who serves as a transmitter
of another's will
25 - the most dangerous and abnormal
nervous disease
25 - one in whose personal Ego, or terrestrial mind
(psuche) the percentage
of "astral" light so preponderates
as to impregnate with it their
whole physical constitution...
25 Mediumship - every organ and cell is
thereby is attuned and subjected to an enormous
and abnormal tension...the mind (Lower Manas) is
ever on the plane of that deceptive light whose
soul is divine, but whose body--the light waves of the
lower planes, infernal--for they are the black, disfigured
reflections of the earth's memories.
26 Mediumship untrained eye
- unnatural distortion of sights and images on the
kaleidoscopic
waves of the astral plane
- unable to discern the true from the false
- example of delusion that now clouds discrimination
HPB ART I 295-8 490
HPB ART II 38-9 432 459 485-6 488
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I thought I would send you this summary to review, but, to get back to the
original subject:
I have asked myself if we are seeing fringe effects from the "astral" or
the "pranic" vestures / principles?
Any ideas?
Dallas
-----Original Message-----
From: Bart Lidofsky [mailto:bartl@sprynet.com]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 1:04 PM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Amazing Randi claims Blavatsky faked appearance of
Koot Hoomi
Dallas TenBroeck wrote:
> "I was reading his origination's about "Water Memory" more properly
> called "High Dilution Phenomena," he supported Benveniste's findings."
>
> What are these ? Help?
It's a theory that is a reverse-logic explanation of homeopathy. It
posits that, if a substance is dissolved in water and removed from it,
there is a difference between that water and water in which the
substance was not dissolved (in other words, water retains traces, or a
"memory" of substances that have been dissolved in it). Experiments to
determine whether or not this is so have been inconclusive or
non-replicable (this does not mean that it isn't true; merely that it
hasn't been proven).
It brings up an interesting point in the Western view of science,
however. One way of dividing science is "utilitarian" and "causative".
"Utilitarian" science can be summarized as: If action A is performed
under condition B, then phenomenon C will result. It has been the
traditional form of science practiced. During the Renaissance in Europe,
however, the idea was developed that it would be useful to find basic
principles of science, so that results can be reliably predicted rather
than just found by trial and error. This is very useful, in that it can
be used to predict areas where experimentation would prove useful.
However, its very usefulness has had the opposite effect, in that
utilitarian science has been minimized.
To be more precise, in the minds of many, it is not enough to know
that
A under B yields C; if there is no theory WHY it happens, that somehow
invalidates THAT it happens (note that this is philosophy of science,
NOT science). This sometimes leads to two unfortunate results:
1) People working with phenomena which are not well-defined and/or
well-measured feel obligated to come up with causes for these phenomena.
These causes can, at best, be called hypotheses, and, more often, are
simply guesses, yet are too often labeled "theories".
2) Others link the hypotheses with the phenomena, coming to the
conclusion that if the hypothesis is disproven, then the phenomena do
not exist.
This has happened with Therapeutic Touch (where experiments which
fail
to show that practitioners can detect "human energy fields" are
misinterpreted as disproof of Therapeutic Touch), and, in the examples
being given, with homeopathy (where failure to demonstrate "water
memory" somehow invalidates homeopathy). I discussed this with James
Randi about a year or two ago, and got a statement from him that he
agreed that disproving a so-called theory behind a phenomenon is not the
same thing as disproving the phenomenon (the main thrust of the
discussions I have had with him in the past few years, is the creation
of "self-test" methodologies for people interested in the million dollar
JREF prize).
Bart
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