Theos-Talk Archives (July 2004 Message tt00137)

July 8 2004

RE: UNIVERSAL THEOSOPHY and "exoteric/esoteric"

Dear Mark:

While Gerry and I use some terms that appear in conflict, yet there is in
metaphysical aspects a similarity if not an unanimity, as I see it.

I found this morning in HPB's articles the following and with regard for
what Gerry writes this might serve to explain an aspect of it:

".what is it that incarnates? The occult doctrine.shows that the.higher
Manas, the pure man, which is associated with the sixth and seventh
principles, [is] that [which] goes into Devachan to enjoy there the effects
of its good Karma, and then to be reincarnated as a higher individuality. .

.an entity, that is passing through the occult training in its successive
births, gradually has less and less (in each incarnation) of that lower
Manas until there arrives a time when its whole Manas, being of an entirely
elevated character, is centered in the higher individuality, when such a
person may be said to have become a MAHATMA. .

The real MAHATMA is then not his physical body but that higher Manas which
is inseparably linked to the Atma and its vehicle (the sixth principle) -- a
union effected by him in a comparatively very short period by passing
through the process of self-evolution laid down by the Occult Philosophy. .

Higher things can be perceived only by a sense pertaining to those higher
things. And whoever therefore wants to see the real MAHATMA, must use his
intellectual sight. He must so elevate his Manas that its perception will be
clear and all mists created by Maya must be dispelled. His vision will then
be bright and he will see the MAHATMAS wherever he may be, for, being merged
into the sixth and the seventh principles, which are ubiquitous and
omnipresent, the MAHATMAS may be said to be everywhere. .

.although the whole of humanity is within the mental vision of the MAHATMAS,
they cannot be expected to take special note of every human being, unless
that being by his special acts draws their particular attention to himself. 

The highest interest of humanity, as a whole, is their special concern, for
they have identified themselves with that Universal Soul which runs through
Humanity, and he, who would draw their attention, must do so through that
Soul [Manas] which pervades everywhere.. 

.the true perception of the Manas is that enlightened belief, which is the
real meaning of the word "faith." This belief should at the same time be
accompanied by knowledge, i.e., experience, for "true knowledge brings with
it faith." Faith is the perception of the Manas (the fifth principle), while
knowledge, in the true sense of the term, is the capacity of the Intellect,
i.e., it is spiritual perception. .

.the higher individuality of man, composed of his higher Manas, the sixth
and the seventh principles, should work as a unity, and then only can it
obtain "divine wisdom," for divine things can be sensed only by divine
faculties. .

.the desire, which should prompt one to apply for chelaship, is to so far
understand the operations of the Law of Cosmic Evolution as will enable him
to work in harmonious accord with Nature, instead of going against its
purposes through ignorance. 
HPB in LODGES OF MAGIC HPB Articles I 293-4

Try and read what is available in SD II 167 on this point It is a most
curious statement.  

Then in TRANSACTIONS OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE on pp 64-5 I find HPB saying
that at night in deep sleep (Sushupti) the Lower Mind aspires and in this
condition it holds a dialog with its HIGHER SELF -- the "tutor" innate to
itself, its "SPIRITUAL SELF."  

I have been thinking over those for a number of years. Testing to see if
indeed that is so. What do you think?

Best wishes, 

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: mark 
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 9:41 PM
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Subject: Re: RE: UNIVERSAL THEOSOPHY and "exoteric/esoteric"

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>From: "Gerald 
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>Who is this "we" that cannot pass back? Our core is the nondual Monad which
>is already in Beness. That which moves in Space or "passes" are mayavic
>manifestations. It is atma-buddhi that cannot pass back through. So, we
>have to transcend atma-buddhi.
>

Does anybody ever follow Gerald where he goes when he lets go of words?
Can you find him?

;-)