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Re: Theos-World the nature of the energy: Randi on The Amazing Bart

Jul 09, 2004 03:34 AM
by krishtar


Hi
Yes Alex.
I agree totally.
Homeopathy for me, pratically teaches the body how to stabilish his own state of harmony which drives to the correct state of health.
Alopathic goes straight to the symptoms and Homeopathic treats the whole.
I once heard a person say that Bach remedies and Homeopathy "cures " due to a self-suggestion", but what about the animals attended with both?
I am testimony of it.
I had animals at home ( other than me of course, lol) who were healed from difficult diseases by the use of certain homeopathic remedies that my wife had prepared under her manualsīs prescriptions.
Regards

Krishtar


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Alex 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World the nature of the energy: Randi on The Amazing Bart


Bart wrote:

>there is still a subjective factor to homeopathy (not to mention the 
>fact that choosing remedies is based on the patients' answering 
>subjective questions accurately).

However, as I understand, and have experienced many times with often-
magnificent success, it is not simply 'answering subjective questions 
accurately'. Rather, the Homeopath does not ask questions 
specifically, but rather like a Psychologist, simply opens a dialogue 
with the patient to get them started talking about what is ailing 
them. The 'talk' or the 'answers' only serve to indicate what state 
of being the patient is in at that particular point in time. 
The 'manner' in which they speak about themselves, or bring forward 
any issue twisting about in the back of their consciousness, leads 
the Homeopath to an understanding of the state of or quality of the 
intrinsic/dynamic energy pattern expressing in that person. This, in 
turn, leads to the correct remedy for *that* person, to restore their 
energy pattern to a state of equilibrium, which brings about a 
readjustment in the acute or chronic condition, always leading to a 
state of wholeness. (Please overlook the long sentence structure, but 
IMO, sometimes to get a thought expressed accurately, rules of syntax 
need to be manipulated.)

True Homeopathy does not claim to cure. It claims to restore the 
organism to a state of wholeness, and the organism makes its own cure.

Alexander Sprinkle
NYC


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Bart Lidofsky <bartl@s...> wrote:
> krishtar wrote:
> > Acording to theosophical teachings which kind or type of energy is
> > carried from one homeopathic solution to another by these
> > dilutions/powering in this case? Etheric?
> 
> Beats the hell out of me. But here we get to the point I was 
trying to 
> make. Without accurate measurements of the effectiveness of 
homeopathy, 
> people are trying to come up with theories of how it works. That is 
the 
> result of the emphasis of causative science over utilitarian 
science.
> 
> The problem with testing homeopathy is the difficulty in 
setting up a 
> control group. Because we don't have accurate measurements, there 
is 
> still a subjective factor to homeopathy (not to mention the fact 
that 
> choosing remedies is based on the patients' answering subjective 
> questions accurately).
> 
> On discussion with a locally prominent homeopath has resulted 
in a 
> description of a test which should at least provide a beginning: 
take a 
> team of homeopaths, have them individually prescribe for a group of 
> people with similar symptoms (allopathically speaking) of a problem 
> which gets better untreated, but would get better more quickly with 
> treatment, and provide the doctors with homeopathic kits, prepared 
by 
> recognized manufacturers. One kit has regular remedies. The other 
has 
> neutral remedies. The doctors will not know which kit is which, but 
> patients, designated A and B, will get either kind of kit. If 
further 
> prescription is needed, the patients will continue to get remedies 
from 
> the same type of kit (so that a type B patient STAYS a type B 
patient). 
> See the results. There should, for completeness, be two additional 
> groups of patients; one that gets allopathic treatments, and one 
that 
> receives no treatment.
> 
> That should, at least, provide initial results which can 
point to 
> further tests. If no difference is found between the type A and 
type B 
> patients, it is an indicator that homeopathic preparation is an 
> irrelevant factor.
> 
> And notice, no causative theory is tested, here.
> 
> Bart



   
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