Theos-Talk Archives (July 2004 Message tt00113)

Referring to the KH quote below. Take all that any way you will. But, from 
the occultist's (or serious, non literal, theosophical student-chela's) point 
of view, it does not say anything about the method of the process, nor 
indicate that there are certain "forms" of matter throughout all kingdoms of Nature 
-- such as organic, living beings, from the single celled vegetable organism to 
the human body itself, that cannot be so manipulated by the highest Adepts. 
Thus, all such assertions by Adepts or Masters -- whose purposes were (at the 
time) to convince their ignorant followers of their powers and wisdom of 
occult processes -- are essentialy misleading to the serious student of the occult 
-- without deep study into all the ramifications, including the qualifications 
and exceptions with respect to such assertions. 

This statement by KH, accordingly, may be a "philosophical" rationale for the 
lost and found cup and saucer phenomena, but it certainly isn't a scientific 
one, nor does it refer directly to it in particular -- which may be a special 
case in itself, and if examined closely from an occult metaphysical point of 
view, may be an impossibility in the sense of creation from scratch, but could 
more likely be a lost-found situation, or, if not actually dug up out of the 
ground, an illusion of glamour or a psychic manipulation of reflected and 
refracted light, or clairvoyance... Processes, incidentally, that can still be 
considered as psychic phenomena based on metaphysical principles... And thus, NOT 
fraudulent "stage magic" tricks (as you presume unjustly, that I think they 
are).

Therefore, in spite of my questioning the observations and reports of the cup 
and saucer phenomena by eye witnesses or others, I stand by HPB and assume 
that, while she may have used glamour and other controlled psychic methods, she 
never used fraudulent "stage magic" tricks in the performance of any of her 
psychic phenomena.

BTW, did you ever question why the Masters and HPB used precipitated letters 
rather than telepathy (a much easier and simpler method) to transmit their 
messages to each other. Could it be that such a "paper trail" choice was a 
simple way to impress their close circle of initial followers, and give them 
something physical to hang on to?

LHM

In a message dated 07/01/04 10:59:58 AM, danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com writes:

>Master K.H. wrote the following to A.O. Hume about
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>a month after Madame Blavatsky performed the cup
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>and saucer phenomenon. Certainly this passage
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>shows the philosophical rationale behind the cup 
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>and saucer phenomenon.
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>The human brain is an exhaustless generator of 
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>the most refined quality of cosmic force, out of 
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>the low, brute energy of nature; and the complete 
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>adept has made himself a centre from which irradiate 
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>potentialities that beget correlations upon 
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>correlations through Aeons to come. This is the 
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>key to the mystery of his being able to project 
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>into and materialise in the visible world the forms 
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>that his imagination has constructed out of inert 
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>cosmic matter in the invisible world. The adept does 
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>not create anything new, but only utilises and 
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>manipulates materials which nature has in store 
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>around him; a material which throughout eternities 
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>has passed through all the forms; he has but to 
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>choose the one he wants and recall it into objective 
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>existence. Would not this sound to one of your 
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>"learned" biologists like a madman's dream? 
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>Quoted from:
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>http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-khaoh.htm
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>Daniel Caldwell
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