Theos-Talk Archives (May 2004 Message tt00121)

Steve
Thanks friend for the input.
Let´s say you helped me understand the situation more than expected.
My doubt is that it would be possible to theosophy and RC doctrines to livetogether...
I read some excerpts from Heindel books and found very similar to CWL´s ideas and also theosophy and found strange because it has nothing to do withwhat i was learning from the RC monographs...
I might as well think that they put much enphasis in the development of what we may call Siddhis but it is driven to experimentation...and it preventsthe mere believing in what is written down in books...what we can see for ourselves will be undoubtful.
Beasant´s prohibition to other affiliations read in the Peter "Baboon" Washington´s but as the book is very doubtful, I thought he was garblingagain.
Very good email from you.
I´ll try to find more information in H.S. Lewis and if you have any indication...it will be welcome too.
Thanks
Krishtar

----- Original Message ----- 
From: stevestubbs 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Digest Number 1458


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "krishtar" <krishtar_a@b...> wrote:
> Steve
> Just for complement, their terminology and their points of view on 
the structure of the Man differ a lot from Theosophy, I am an 
inactive member and was willing to come back but I took the 
monographs , review some of ´em and I am insecure if it is possible 
to conciliate both wolds, Theosophy and Rosicrucianism of AMORC.
> What is your view?
> 
> Krishtar

I am not sure what you mean. A rival of AMORC named Max Heindel
used a lot of complicated Theosophical ideas in the early
twentieth century and relabeled them "Rosicrucian" so for
political reasons AMORC teaches a classification of human
principles which is considerably simpler and which they insist is
sufficient for the practical work they do. Their position is
that the Leadbeater stuff is too complex for most people and
likely to lead to confusion, but I do not see any contradiction
between them. AMORC's explanations can be seen as an abstraction
of the more complicaled neoTheosophical system. In one of the
advanced degree monographs when I was a member there was a brief
statement about the "root race" theory in which it was
recommended to serious students, and in which it was said that it
was just too complicated for most people to get into, and that
AMORC did not teach it for that reason. I think this is an
accurate statement since AMORC was oriented toward experiential
learning, whereas Theosophists mostly just read. When I was a
member THE SECRET DOCTRINE was on the recommended reading list.

Also, when she headed the EST, Annie Besant forbade her members
to affiliate with any other esoteric society, including AMORC, so
there was an additional political irritant there. I have never
read that Theosophists who were not members of the EST had their
personal freedom infringed upon in this or any other way. There
was a notice about that in an early edition of the magazine
AMERICAN ROSAE CRUCIS. Besant's society was never invited to any
of the "Great White Brotherhood" councils organized by Theodore
Reuss in Europe in 1920 and afterward, nor to the FUDOSI meetings
of the 30s. There were also political frictions between the
member organizations of the FUDOSI, which is, I believe, the REAL
reason that organization was disbanded.

I also suspect that it was to differentiate themselves from the
Theosophical Society that the Rosicrucians put so much emphasis
on Egypt as distinguished from India. That and the fact that H.
Spencer Lewis apparently believed he was Amenhotep IV in a
previous lifetime. I do not take that idea seriously but did get
a great deal of benefit out of my association with them, which
ended in 1979. Hard to believe it has been so many years.

There is reason to believe that when I was a member the
organization was still used by the masters as one of their
channels to the profane world. Whether that is still the case
with the people who seem to have established this contact having
all passed away I cannot say. HS Lewis claimed to have been a
chela, and said that there were mahatma manifestations at the
FUDOSI get togethers in Europe. I believe that, having seen such
phenomena myself in the temple I used to visit.
   




   
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