Theos-Talk Archives (April 2004 Message tt00620)

Hallo Eldon and all,

My views are:

Where has anyone ever written anything about this "troll" issue mentioned by
Eldon ?

Eldon you wrote:
"We
> cannot expect everyone to be sharing the same feelings and interests at
the
> same moment. It is best to do is to just express ourselves clearly, avoid
> chiding others for being in a different state of mind, and selectively
> interact with others who are currently on the same wavelength as we are."

So that is always the best thing to do ?
What is a clear expression to some - is not so to others.

There is the communication.
There is the motive.
There is the emailer or communicator and this persons reaction.
There is the receiver and this persons reaction.
There is the vehicle used to communicate by.
There is the background noise.
There is the level of compassion.
There is time, place and circumstances.
There is the spiritual cosmos and the physical world.
There is ParaBrahman who is omnipresent.



from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...and a experienced and patient look and a
new theosophical fashion hat...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eldon B Tucker" <eldon@theosophy.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:43 PM
Subject: Theos-World multiple channels of discussion


> One thing important to keep in mind is that there are multiple channels of
> discussion open at the same time on the mailing list. There are not only
> multiple threads of discussion, but also different sets of people with
> different things going on.
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> In one context, a few people are sitting around joking to each other,
> speaking irreverently about things but generally enjoying humor and the
> light side of things. For them, anything is fair game for additional
> materials to laugh at.
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> In a second context, some are involved in intellectual discussions of
> history, politics, or logic. For them, matters of fact and logic are
> paramount -- or matters of rhetoric, debate, and winning points if their
> emphasis is partisan.
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> In a third context, people may take a religious, contemplative, somber
tone,
> like one holds when viewing the stars on a clear night or in the presence
of
> a holy place or person. For them, matters of faith, spiritual practice,
and
> inner work are the most important.
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> In yet a fourth context, everyone may be seen as ignorant fools or raw
> recruits for some other faith, organization, or belief system. For them,
the
> thing to do is to attack Theosophy and seduce or manipulate others into
> joining their 'one true' church, political party, or self-help cult. (This
> last example is the only one of a thread that is inappropriate on any
> mailing list: attempts to disrupt the list for recruiting people for
> something else or for the sheer pleasure of fighting with and harming
> people. Someone with this type of behavior is called a "troll" and list
> owners rarely tolerate such individuals.)
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> We might be participating in one "channel" or mode and find ourselves
> inadvertently annoyed at what others are doing. Say we're in a serious
study
> and presenting something import and someone else comes along and makes fun
> of it. Say we're discussing theosophical doctrines and someone else starts
> attacking us and saying we're "devil worshipers" or some such nonsense. Or
> say we're making a joke and someone else, in a different mood, takes
severe
> offense and lashes out at us.
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> On a mailing list, there are many different people with different frames
of
> mind and emotional states. One is feeling silly, playful. Another feels
> serious, reverent, religious. A third is dwelling in a mystical space,
> contemplating grand visions and grasping for words to describe them. We
> cannot expect everyone to be sharing the same feelings and interests at
the
> same moment. It is best to do is to just express ourselves clearly, avoid
> chiding others for being in a different state of mind, and selectively
> interact with others who are currently on the same wavelength as we are.
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