Theos-Talk Archives (April 2004 Message tt00457)

March 13 2004 


Re: Extra terrestrial travel ?


Dear Friends:


Further information on this point:

The concept of the ONE ELEMENT which pervades all SPACE according to
Occultism, might be related to the current search for a proof of the
"Unified Theory Of Relativity," explain the "Indeterminacy," and
apparent independence of every "atom," and , "String-Theory" which
serves to cut distance and time, as we know them in physical nature, to
mere instants regardless of what we regard as "distance" or "time of
translation," -- and a number of current concepts.

We came across a statement made in EVERYDAY SCIENCE EXPLAINED just
published by the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC, that the human brain (about 3
lbs. in weight) "holds about 100 billion neuroms, and many of them 
can each interconnect with 10,000 or more others. This means that the
number of different paths an impulse can take through the brain is
unimaginably huge, approaching if not actually exceeding the number of
particles in the known universe." [p. 222]

Further, on p. 244 we read: "Both halves [of the brain] are
interconnected by some 300 million axons. Indeed every part of the brain
ultimately is wired into every other part, through a wondrous neural
assemblage of loops that feed forward as well as back. Highly
intellectual thoughts are colored by raw feelings and memory, and even
the most primitive of impulses is always modified, to some extent, by
consciousness."

To demonstrate that this knowledge was well known in ancient days, let
us review together that which occurred some 2,600 years ago:

I am reminded of a passage in THE LIGHT OF ASIA [ Pp.. 7-9] where the
Buddha as a lad was sent to be taught:

And Viswamitra said, "It is enough,
Let us to numbers. 
After me repeat
Your numeration till we reach the Lakh,
One, two, three, four, to ten, and then by tens
To hundreds, thousands." After him the child
Named digits, decads, centuries; nor paused,
The round lakh reached, but softly murmured on
"Then comes the kôti, nahut, ninnahut,
Khamba, viskhamba, abab, attata,
To kumuds, gundhikas, and utpalas,
By pundarîkas unto padumas,
Which last is how you count the utmost grains
Of Hastagiri ground to finest dust;
But beyond that a numeration is,
The Kâtha, used to count the stars of night;
The Kôti-Kâtha, for the ocean drops;
Ingga, the calculus of circulars;
Sarvanikchepa, by the which you deal
With all the sands of Gunga, till we come
To Antah-Kalpas, where the unit is
The sands of ten crore Gungas. If one seeks
More comprehensive scale, th' arithmic mounts
By the Asankya, which is the tale
Of all the drops that in ten thousand years
Would fall on all the worlds by daily rain;
Thence unto Maha Kalpas, by the which
The Gods compute their future and their past." 

"'Tis good," the Sage rejoined, "Most noble Prince, 
If these thou know'st, needs it that I should teach
The mensuration of the lineal?"

Humbly the boy replied, "Acharya!"
"Be pleased to hear me. Paramânus ten
A parasukshma make; ten of those build
The trasarene, and seven trasarenes
One mote's-length floating in the beam, seven motes
The whisker-point of mouse, and ten of these
One likhya; likhyas ten a yuka, ten
Yukas a heart of barley, which is held
Seven times a wasp-waist; so unto the grain
Of mung and mustard and the barley-corn,
Whereof ten give the finger-joint, twelve joints
The span, wherefrom we reach the cubit, staff,
Bow-length, lance-length; while twenty lengths of lance
Mete what is named a 'breath,' which is to say
Such space as man may stride with lungs once filled, 
Whereof a gow is forty, four times that
A yôjana; and, Master! if it please,
I shall recite how many sun-motes lie 
>From end to end within a yôjana."
Thereat, with instant skill, the little Prince 
Pronounced the total of the atoms true. 

But Viswamitra heard it on his face
Prostrate before the boy; "For thou," he cried,
Art Teacher of thy teachers -- thou, not I,
Art Guru. Oh, I worship thee, sweet Prince!
That comest to my school only to show
Thou knowest all without the books, and know'st
Fair reverence besides." 

Which reverence 
Lord Buddha kept to all his schoolmasters, 
Albeit beyond their learning taught; in speech
Right gentle, yet so wise; princely of mien, 
Yet softly-mannered; modest, deferent,
And tender-hearted, though of fearless blood;
[ Light of Asia, p 7-9 Book 1 ]

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Here are some quotes from the SECRET DOCTRINE :

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See SECRET DOCTRINE I 13

The reader has to bear in mind that the Stanzas given treat only of the
Cosmogony of our own planetary System and what is visible around it,
after a Solar Pralaya. 

The secret teachings with regard to the Evolution of the Universal
Kosmos cannot be given, since they could not be understood by the
highest minds in this age, and there seem to be very few Initiates, even
among the greatest, who are allowed to speculate upon this subject.
Moreover the Teachers say openly that NOT EVEN THE HIGHEST
DHYANI-CHOHANS HAVE EVER PENETRATED THE MYSTERIES BEYOND THOSE
BOUNDARIES THAT SEPARATE THE MILLIARDS OF SOLAR SYSTEMS FROM THE
"CENTRAL SUN," AS IT IS CALLED. THEREFORE, THAT WHICH IS GIVEN, RELATES
ONLY TO OUR VISIBLE KOSMOS, AFTER A "NIGHT OF BRAHMÂ."

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"(b) The "Breath" of the One Existence is used in its application only
to the spiritual aspect of Cosmogony by Archaic esotericism; otherwise,
it is replaced by its equivalent in the material plane — Motion. THE ONE
ETERNAL ELEMENT, or element-containing Vehicle, is Space, dimensionless
in every sense; co-existent with which are — endless duration,
primordial (hence indestructible) matter, and motion — absolute
"perpetual motion" which is the "breath" of the "One" Element. This
breath, as seen, can never cease, not even during the Pralayic
eternities. (See "Chaos, Theos, Kosmos," in Part II.) 

But the "Breath of the One Existence" does not, all the same, apply to
the One Causeless Cause or the "All Be-ness" (in contradistinction to
All-Being, which is Brahma, or the Universe). Brahmâ (or Hari) the
four-faced god who, after lifting the Earth out of the waters,
"accomplished the Creation," is held to be only the instrumental, and
not, as clearly implied, the ideal Cause. No Orientalist, so far, seems
to have thoroughly comprehended the real sense of the verses in the
Purâna, that treat of "creation." 

Therein Brahmâ is the cause of the potencies that are to be generated
subsequently for the work of "creation." When a translator says, "And
from him proceed the potencies to be created, after they had become the
real cause": "and from IT proceed the potencies that will create as they
become the real cause" (on the material plane) would perhaps be more
correct? Save that one (causeless) ideal cause there is no other to
which the universe can be referred. "Worthiest of ascetics! through its
potency — i.e., through the potency of that cause — every created thing
comes by its inherent or proper nature." If, in the Vedanta and Nyaya,
nimitta is the efficient cause, as contrasted with upadána, the material
cause, (and in the Sankhya, pradhána implies the functions of both); in
the Esoteric philosophy, which reconciles all these systems, and the
nearest exponent of which is the Vedanta as expounded by the Advaita
Vedantists, none but the upadána can be speculated upon; that which is
in the minds of the Vaishnavas (the Vasishta-dvaita) as the ideal in
contradistinction to the real — or Parabrahm and Isvara — can find no
room in published speculations, since that ideal even is a misnomer,
when applied to that of which no human reason, even that of an adept,
can conceive. 

To know itself or oneself, necessitates consciousness and perception
(both limited faculties in relation to any subject except Parabrahm), to
be cognized. Hence the "Eternal Breath which knows itself not." Infinity
cannot comprehend Finiteness. The Boundless can have no relation to the
bounded and the conditioned. In the occult teachings, the Unknown and
the Unknowable MOVER, or the Self-Existing, is the absolute divine
Essence. And thus being Absolute Consciousness, and Absolute Motion — to
the limited senses of those who describe this indescribable — it is
unconsciousness and immoveableness. Concrete consciousness cannot be
predicated of abstract Consciousness, any more than the quality wet can
be predicated of water — wetness being its own attribute and the cause
of the wet quality in other things. Consciousness implies limitations
and qualifications; something to be conscious of, and someone to be
conscious of it. But Absolute Consciousness contains the cognizer, the
thing cognized and the cognition, all three in itself and all three one.
No man is conscious of more than that portion of his knowledge that
happens to have been recalled to his mind at any particular time, yet
such is the poverty of language that we have no term to distinguish the
knowledge not actively thought of, from knowledge we are unable to
recall to memory. To forget is synonymous with not to remember. How much
greater must be the difficulty of finding terms to describe, and to
distinguish between, abstract metaphysical facts or differences. It must
not be forgotten, also, that we give names to things according to the
appearances they assume for ourselves. We call absolute consciousness
"unconsciousness," because it seems to us that it must necessarily be
so, just as we call the Absolute, "Darkness," because to our finite
understanding it appears quite impenetrable, yet we recognize fully that
our perception of such things does not do them justice. We involuntarily
distinguish in our minds, for instance, between unconscious absolute
consciousness, and unconsciousness, by secretly endowing the former with
some indefinite quality that corresponds, on a higher plane than our
thoughts can reach, with what we know as consciousness in ourselves. But
this is not any kind of consciousness that we can manage to distinguish
from what appears to us as unconsciousness." SECRET DOCTRINE I 55-6

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"If the student bears in mind that there is but One Universal Element,
which is infinite, unborn, and undying, and that all the rest — as in
the world of phenomena — are but so many various differentiated aspects
and transformations (correlations, they are now called) of that One,
from Cosmical down to microcosmical effects, from super-human down to
human and sub-human beings, the totality, in short, of objective
existence — then the first and chief difficulty will disappear and
Occult Cosmology may be mastered.* All the Kabalists and Occultists,
Eastern and Western, recognise (a) 
 
* In the Egyptian as in the Indian theogony there was a concealed deity,
the ONE, and the creative, androgynous god. Thus Shoo is the god of
creation and Osiris is, in his original primary form, the "god whose
name is unknown." (See Mariette's Abydos II., p. 63, and Vol. III., pp.
413, 414, No. 1122.) 
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the identity of "Father-Mother" with primordial Ćther or Akasa, (Astral
Light)*; and (b) its homogeneity before the evolution of the "Son,"
cosmically Fohat, for it is Cosmic Electricity. "Fohat hardens and
scatters the seven brothers" (Book III. Dzyan); which means that the
primordial Electric Entity — for the Eastern Occultists insist that
Electricity is an Entity — electrifies into life, and separates
primordial stuff or pregenetic matter into atoms, themselves the source
of all life and consciousness. "There exists an universal agent unique
of all forms and of life, that is called Od,† Ob, and Aour, active and
passive, positive and negative, like day and night: it is the first
light in Creation" (Eliphas Lévi's Kabala): — the first Light of the
primordial Elohim — the Adam, "male and female" — or (scientifically)
ELECTRICITY AND LIFE.."	SECRET DOCTRINE I 75-6

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"Eight houses were built by Mother. Eight houses for her Eight Divine
sons; four large and four small ones. Eight brilliant suns, according to
their age and merits. Bal-ilu (Martanda) was not satisfied, though his
house was the largest. He began (to work) as the huge elephants do. He
breathed (drew in) into his stomach the vital airs of his brothers. He
sought to devour them. The larger four were far away; far, on the margin
of their kingdom.* They were not robbed (affected), and laughed. Do your
worst, Sir, you cannot reach us, they said. But the smaller wept. They
complained to the Mother. She exiled Bal-i-lu to the centre of her
Kingdom, from whence he could not move. (Since then) he (only) watches
and threatens. He pursues them, turning slowly around himself, they
turning swiftly from him, and he following from afar the direction in
which his brothers move on the path that encircles their houses.† From
that day he feeds on the sweat of the Mother's body. He fills himself
with her breath and refuse. Therefore, she rejected him." 

Thus the "rejected Son" being our Sun, evidently, as shown above, the
"Sun-Sons" refer not only to our planets but to the heavenly bodies in
general. Himself only a reflection of the Central Spiritual Sun, Surya
is the prototype of all those bodies that evolved after him. In the
Vedas he is called Loka-Chakshuh, "the Eye of the World" (our 
 
Footnote continued from previous page— author of "Maconnerie Occulte": —
"Occult Sciences having discovered through astronomical calculations
that the number of the planets must be seven, the ancients were led to
introduce the Sun into the scale of the celestial harmonies, and make
him occupy the vacant place. Thus, every time they perceived an
influence that pertained to none of the six planets known, they
attributed it to the Sun. The error only seems important, but was not so
in practical results, if the ancient astrologers replaced Uranus by the
Sun, which is a central Star relatively motionless, turning only on its
axis and regulating time and measure; and which cannot be turned aside
from its true functions." . . . . . . The nomenclature of the days of
the week is thus faulty. "The Sun-Day ought to be Uranus-day (Urani
dies, Urandi)," adds the learned writer, Ragon. 
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* Planetary System. 

† "The Sun rotates on his axis always in the same direction in which the
planets revolve in their respective orbits," astronomy teaches us. 
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FIRE, THE GREAT SYMBOL OF DEITY.

planetary world), and he is one of the three chief deities. He is called
indifferently the Son of Dyaus and of Aditi, because no distinction is
made with reference to, or scope allowed for, the esoteric meaning. Thus
he is depicted as drawn by seven horses, and by one horse with seven
heads; the former referring to his seven planets, the latter to their
one common origin from the One Cosmic Element. This "One Element" is
called figuratively "FIRE." The Vedas (Aitareya-Brahmana of Haug also;
p. i) teach "that the fire verily is all the deities." (Narada in
Anugita). 

The meaning of the allegory is plain, for we have both the Dzyan
Commentary and modern science to explain it, though the two differ in
more than one particular. The Occult Doctrine rejects the hypothesis
born out of the Nebular Theory, that the (seven) great planets have
evolved from the Sun's central mass, not of this our visible Sun, at any
rate. The first condensation of Cosmic matter of course took place about
a central nucleus, its parent Sun; but our sun, it is taught, merely
detached itself earlier than all the others, as the rotating mass
contracted, and is their elder, bigger brother therefore, not their
father. The eight Adityas, "the gods," are all formed from the eternal
substance (Cometary matter* — the Mother) or the "World-Stuff " which is
both the fifth and the sixth COSMIC Principle, the Upadhi or basis of
the Universal Soul, just as in man, the Microcosm, Manas † is the Upadhi
of Buddhi. ‡

(d) There is a whole poem on the pregenetic battles fought by the
growing planets before the final formation of Kosmos, thus accounting
for the seemingly disturbed position of the systems of several planets,
the plane of the satellites of some (of Neptune and Uranus, for
instance, of which the ancients knew nothing, it is said) being tilted
over, thus giving them an appearance of retrograde motion. These planets
are called the warriors, the Architects, and are accepted by the 

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* This Essence of Cometary matter, Occult Science teaches, is totally
different from any of the chemical or physical characteristics with
which modern science is acquainted. It is homogeneous in its primitive
form beyond the Solar Systems, and differentiates entirely once it
crosses the boundaries of our Earth's region, vitiated by the
atmospheres of the planets and the already compound matter of the
interplanetary stuff, heterogeneous only in our manifested world. 

† Manas — the Mind-Principle, or the human Soul. 

‡ Buddhi — the divine Soul. 
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Roman Church as the leaders of the heavenly Hosts, thus showing the same
traditions. Having evolved from Cosmic Space, and before the final
formation of the primaries and the annulation of the planetary nebula,
the Sun, we are taught, drew into the depths of its mass all the Cosmic
vitality he could, threatening to engulf his weaker "brothers" before
the law of attraction and repulsion was finally adjusted; after which he
began feeding on "The Mother's refuse and sweat"; in other words, on
those portions of Ether (the "breath of the Universal Soul") of the
existence and constitution of which science is as yet absolutely
ignorant. 

A theory of this kind having been propounded by Sir William Grove (see
"Correlation of the Physical Forces," 1843, p. 81; and "Address to the
British Association, 1866"), who theorized that the systems "are
gradually changing by atmospheric additions or subtractions, or by
accretions and diminutions arising from nebular substances" . . . and
again that "the Sun may condense gaseous matter as it travels in Space
and so heat may be produced" — the archaic teaching seems scientific
enough, even in this age.* 

Mr. W. Mattieu Williams suggested that the diffused matter or Ether
which is the recipient of the heat radiations of the Universe is thereby
drawn into the depths of the solar mass. Expelling thence the previously
condensed and thermally exhausted Ether, it becomes compressed and gives
up its heat, to be in turn itself driven out in a rarified and cooled
state, to absorb a fresh supply of heat, which he supposes to be in this
way taken up by the Ether, and again concentrated and redistributed by
the Suns of the Universe.† 
SECRET DOCTRINE I 100-1

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Fohat is closely related to the "ONE LIFE." From the Unknown One, the
Infinite TOTALITY, the manifested ONE, or the periodical, Manvantaric
Deity, emanates; and this is the Universal Mind, which, separated from
its Fountain-Source, is the Demiurgos or the creative Logos of the
Western Kabalists, and the four-faced Brahmâ of the Hindu religion. In
its totality, viewed from the standpoint of manifested Divine Thought in
the esoteric doctrine, it represents the Hosts of the higher creative
Dhyan Chohans. 

Simultaneously with the evolution of the Universal Mind, the concealed
Wisdom of Adi-Buddha — the One Supreme and eternal — manifests itself as
Avalôkitęshwara (or manifested Iswara), which is the Osiris of the
Egyptians, the Ahura-Mazda of the Zoroastrians, the Heavenly Man of the
Hermetic philosopher, the Logos of the Platonists, and the Atman of the
Vedantins.* By the action of the manifested Wisdom, or Mahat,
represented by these innumerable centres of spiritual Energy in the
Kosmos, the reflection of the Universal Mind, which is Cosmic Ideation
and the intellectual Force accompanying such ideation, becomes
objectively the Fohat of the Buddhist esoteric philosopher. Fohat,
running along the seven principles of AKASA, acts upon manifested
substance or the ONE ELEMENT, as declared above, and by differentiating
it into various centres of Energy, sets in motion the law of Cosmic
Evolution, which, in obedience to the Ideation of the Universal Mind,
brings into existence all the various states of being in the manifested
Solar System. 

The Solar System, brought into existence by these agencies, consists of
Seven Principles, like everything else within these centres. Such is the
teaching of the trans-Himalayan Esotericism. Every philosophy, however,
has its own way of dividing these principles."	SECRET DOCTRINE I 110

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" METAPHYSICALLY and esoterically there is but One ELEMENT in nature,
and at the root of it is the Deity; and the so-called seven elements, of
which five have already manifested and asserted their existence, are the
garment, the veil, of that deity; direct from the essence whereof comes
MAN, whether physically, psychically, mentally or spiritually
considered. Four elements only are generally spoken of in later
antiquity, five admitted only in philosophy. For the body of ether is
not fully manifested yet, and its noumenon is still "the Omnipotent
Father—AEther, the synthesis of the rest." But what are these "ELEMENTS"
whose compound bodies have now been discovered by Chemistry and Physics
to contain numberless sub-elements, even the sixty or seventy of which
no longer embrace the whole number suspected. (Vide Addenda, §§ XI. and
XII., quotations from Mr. Crookes' Lectures.) Let us follow their
evolution from the historical beginnings, at any rate. 
The four Elements were fully characterized by Plato when he said that
they were that "which composes and decomposes the compound bodies." 

Hence Cosmolatry was never, even in its worst aspect, the fetishism
which adores or worships the passive external form and matter of any
object, but looked ever to the noumenon therein. Fire, Air, Water,
Earth, were but the visible garb, the symbols of the informing,
invisible Souls or Spirits—the Cosmic gods to whom worship was offered
by the ignorant, and simple, respectful recognition by the wiser. In
their turn the phenomenal subdivisions of the noumenal Elements were
informed by the Elementals, so called, the "Nature Spirits" of lower
grades."
SECRET DOCTRINE I 460-1

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" Occultism, which knows of the existence and presence in Nature of the
One eternal element at the first differentiation of which the roots of
the tree of life are periodically struck, needs no scientific proofs. It
says:—Ancient Wisdom has solved the problem ages ago. Aye; earnest, as
well as mocking reader, Science is slowly but as surely approaching our
domains of the Occult. It is forced by its own discoveries to adopt
nolens volens our phraseology and symbols. Chemical Science is now
compelled, by the very force of things, to accept even our illustration
of the evolution of the gods and atoms, so suggestively and undeniably
figured in the caduceus of Mercury, the God of Wisdom, and in the
allegorical language of the Archaic Sages. Says a commentary in the
esoteric doctrine:—

. . . . The trunk of the ASVATTHA (the tree of Life and Being, the ROD
of the caduceus) grows from and descends at every Beginning (every new
manvantara) from the two dark wings of the Swan (HANSA) of Life. The two
Serpents, the ever-living and its illusion (Spirit and matter) whose two
heads grow from the one head between the wings, descend along the trunk,
interlaced in close embrace. The two tails join on earth (the manifested
Universe) into one, and this is the great illusion, O Lanoo!" 

Every one knows what the caduceus is, already modified by the Greeks.
The original symbol—with the triple head of the serpent—became altered
into a rod with a knob, and the two lower heads were separated, thus
disfiguring somewhat the original meaning. Yet it is as good an
illustration as can be for our purpose, this laya rod entwined by two
serpents. Verily the wonderful powers of the magic caduceus were sung by
all the ancient poets, with a very good reason for those who understood
the secret meaning."	SECRET DOCTRINE I 549-50

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concept of the ONE ELEMENT which pervades all space might be related to
the current search for the "Unified Theory Of Relativity,"
"Indeterminacy," and , "String-Theory" and a number of current concepts.

We came across a statement made in EVERYDAY SCIENCE EXPLAINED just
published by the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC that the human brain (about 3 lbs.
in weight) "holds about 100 billion neuroms, and many of them 
can each interconnect with 10,000 or more others. This means that the
number of different paths an impulse can take through the brain is
unimaginably huge, approaching if not actually exceeding the number of
particles in the known universe." [p. 222]

Further, on p. 244 we read: "Both halves [of the brain] are
interconnected by some 300 million axons. Indeed every part of the brain
ultimately is wired into every other part, through a wondrous neural
assemblage of loops that feed forward as well as back. Highly
intellectual thoughts are colored by raw feelings and memory, and even
the most primitive of impulses is always modified, to some extent, by
consciousness."



Best wishes,

Dallas


-----Original Message-----
From: Dallas TenBroeck [mailto:dalval14@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:13 AM
To: AA-BNStudy
Subject: RE: Theos-World RE: [bn-study] Mars -- WATER ON MARS ?

March 12 2004

Dear K: and friends:

Contrary to SCI. FI., THEOSOPHY says our evolution and progress is
restricted to our Earth and its KARMA and stage of "consciousness."

We have to set that in order before thinking of "space travel" or of
being "visited" by extra-terrestrials.

If there is no karmic bond established as an active connection with
entities living on other "worlds" 

Here are some references to consult in SECRET DOCTRINE :


Are other planets inhabited?	S D I 133 II 77, 699, 701, 706-7

All the planets, suns, nebulae, etc of our visible heavens are "4th
"Globe" matter with which we are familiar here on our Earth and
consubstantial with:   
S D I 165 & footnote, 20, 274 top, 295, 

We have as Kama-Manasic level beings no access yet to "higher planes of
consciousness"  
S D I 199-200

A higher level of "communication" is hinted at: S D I 605

Best wishes,

Dallas